well on the home front, yes. I don't think soldiers in the middle of the theaters of battle were though. DS9 was supposed to be right in the thick of things, but the writers didn't want the show to be nothing but the war so there was a start and stop feel to the war.
How did you feel about Vic Fontaine?
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well on the home front, yes. I don't think soldiers in the middle of the theaters of battle were though. DS9 was supposed to be right in the thick of things, but the writers didn't want the show to be nothing but the war so there was a start and stop feel to the war.
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They simplyl ran out of material for the war.
I'ts like 10 episodes in a ROW with nothing ...absolutely nothing to do with the war. I think it was a totall of 15 episodes after capturing DS9 in Season 6...That's HALF the season. I'm all for a little variety but that was completely ridiculous. I remember when I was a kid and can't tell you the irratation I had over this. Looking back on it now I don't know how I kept watching the series after season 6. That was not a proper build of suspense at all.
I think Season 7 did pretty much the same thing.
So DS9 (no matter how good it was) had a hand in bringing down Trek just like Voyager and ENT. And it's because even when they had a good thing, they didn't know what to do with it.
Considering that I was born in 1970, no. It was 1986.
What show were you watching?
Two episode after Sacrifce of Angels comes Statistical Probabilities, The Magnificent Ferengi and Waltz, then two episodes later One Little Ship then another two episodes after that Change of Heart, then one episode later is Inquisition and In the Pale Moonlight, then two episodes later Valiant, and finally three episodes later Tears of the Prophets.
All these episodes deal with the war in one way or another.
The war also plays a major part in setting up episodes like Far Beyond the Stars and The Reckoning. So unless by stories about the war you just mean 'big ass space battles' I'm not sure what you're complaining about.
I love Vic, but don't like how they wasted a meaningless filler episode, and one containing much supremely stupid dialogue (Sisko's sour grapes about 20th century racism; Quark hating Vic because he is "competition" even though Quark owns Vic's space) on him with Badda Bing Badda Bang.
I have to admit that while I think (mostly) "Badd Bing Badda Bang" was a fun episode, the race stuff did bother me. I just don't think it has any place in this episode but otherwise, it was another great Vic episode.
As for Quark viewing Vic as competition. I think he felt a little slighted that his customers were going to a hologram to talk or to a simulation to have a good time. Quark does really see him self as an old fashioned bar keep and Vic was edging him out in that regard.
Considering how many times the Holodeck goes insane and always kills people, destroys the ship or confuses an alien race... you'd think they would limited its usage on a Starship to training simulations.
Personally, I really liked the Baseball references-- but living in Japan it's hard for me to consider the sport "specifically American" anymore and I could actually see a person with New Orleans roots in the distant future having an affinity for the game and its history. DS9 was chalk full of references to America (Bell riots (fictional but still U.S.), Area 51, Baseball, Vegas, civil rights) and I always enjoyed it.
I agree with this entirely. "It's Only a Paper Moon" is an excellent episode. The fact that he was a hologram never bothered me because his advice is generally straight-forward, no-bullshit common sense that seems to fly in American culture.
Oh I agree to a point. Sisko could have objections with the historical inaccuracy of the program, but the "our people" nonsense was more than a little jarring. Luckily, it was still a pretty good episode and I saw it as more of a necessary "break in the action" than a waste of time.
I really liked his character. He was a good addition to the show.