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Did they overdo the amount of aliens in Titan?

Mage

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I just started Titan a few days ago, having read Destiny and wanting more of this crew.
Thing is, I'm bit bothered by the amount of aliens. Not that I want more humans, that's not the point, but it feels a bit forced. In the beginning of Taking Wing, there's a chapter where it's mentioned in that ine chapter several times how diverse the Titan crew is, and lot's of emphasis on how difficult it will be to socialize all this cultures together.

Now, I do like the fact that, in general, we see more aliens in Starfleet then we saw on tv, since they have no budget restraints. But it all just feels a bit to much in Titan at the moment.
 
You mean have they? As it's an ongoing series.

Oh and no, not really, I had no problem there being so many "aliens" on board Titan. I'm sure Christopher or the like will come in and explain why they had them.

Me, I've read it a few times as to the rationale and I completely understand it, but I've not long woken up and can't remember what was said previously.
 
Well yeah, going on ofcourse. ;)

And like I said, I do like the diversety, but in the first book in just feels a little forced. Perhaps it will get better by the other novells.

I'd love to hear Christopher's insights in my comments. I love his novells I read sofar, can't wait to read more.
 
Its been sorta a turn-off for me the Titan books with all the alien species. Yeah, I'm for IDIC & all, but it seems it was just jammed downed our throats. I liked the Taking Wing books, but from them on it just seemed like, "OK, i get it, Titan holds the Guiness record for the most aliens on the ship"

My nitpick is that how Dino doc's body and the Hulian character, the blue skinned counselor that is suppose to be 2 feet tall, -- (I'm recalling this from memory, so I apologize if not totally accurate) are so vastly different from each other and from the humans, are their environmental suits located on every deck for emergencies? Are all the rooms capatible on the ship? What is a Hulian type character cross trains or another of the same species comes on board and is a Helmsman? Will the chair just be raised & lowered. Heck, my wife is 5 inches shorter than me (not 3 feet) and I still gripe when my pick up truck seat settings are mucked up cuz of her driving it for a day.

How about when they meet with the Captain in the ready room, is it "dinosaur accessible" so to speak for the dinosaur to sit down?

How about the control panels?? I'm sure Dino Doc's hands are different from humans to you the same PADDs???

How about the Lavena, the watergirl?? YOu think she gets uber-frustrated being in wetsuit 24/7. Heck, I've been in radiological suits in the army and find they incredibly uncomfortable. Even if they are 'modernized" to the 24th century, i think it still would suck. Imagine being underwater 24/7 and had to wear scuba suit as your room is all water. That would get old after a week, not to say months.

Perhaps I'm sounding to harsh, but sorta drives me nuts all the aliens. It just seems like Titan wants to say, "We make the aliens look even alien to the aliens" In fact, I think in the last book, there was sorta a "who's who" section in the book. I always think if you need a "who's who" in the book, they the characters aren't explained well enough in the book or there are way to many of them.

Maybe I hold it to the same standards as the Vanguard series. There are just as many characters, if not more, from the starbase crew, the Bombay, the Saggittereus, the Endeavor crew. And yep, they don't have strictly human crews, but it just comes off more believeable. And for whatever reason I haven't found a issue keeping track fo everyone.

Maybe Titan wants to come off as more World-building or pure Science Fiction, I dunno, but I'd take a Vanguard book any day over Titan.

As Titan could be compared to a US Navy aircraft carrier, the Captain doesn't say, "Hey, we need some rednecks from Kentucky to mingle with the crew, and don't forget to get someone from that tiny state of Rhode Island, cuz this ship really needs to be represented by as many states as possible" (No slur intended if you are a redneck or from Kentucky)
 
For me, it's hard to visualize many of the non-familiar aliens and I often forget or have no idea what they're supposed to look like or even be. Dr. Ree tends to stand out as a dinosaur-type alien, but the other aliens we've never seen onscreen before usually fall into my "generic alien" file until a specific physical characteristic is described.
 
I personally agree that, in the first books of the series, there was a bit too much "Wow, we're a diverse crew! Look how wonderfully diverse we are and how, despite the complications it raises, we embrace our diversity!" But that does fade into the background as the series goes along.
 
It isn't so much the amount of aliens on the Titan I don't like, its the non-humanoid ones I have little time for. I can easily picture a character of a species I've seen in the episodes or the films, but my poor imagination can't bring itself to see Dr. Ree interacting with Riker or Troi.

It is the same with the other series as well; as hard as I tried, I couldn't imagine anything else but Kif from Futurama when the Tzenkethi were described in Rough Beasts of Empire.
 
It isn't so much the amount of aliens on the Titan I don't like, its the non-humanoid ones I have little time for. I can easily picture a character of a species I've seen in the episodes or the films, but my poor imagination can't bring itself to see Dr. Ree interacting with Riker or Troi.

Ree's the only one of the non-humanoid characters that I can visualise, actually - I got the image of Earl Sinclair from Dinosaurs in a Starfleet uniform stuck in my head...

As for the others, I just have trouble remembering who's who. There's a blue teddy bear, and a spider, and...um... :rolleyes:
 
I don't have any trouble visualizing the aliens. I think Martin & Mangels are way too proud of themselves for Championing Diversity, but after you get past their initial couple of books, it's not a problem. Over A Torrent Sea and Synthesis in particular do a great job of using the different crew members' alien-ness as a strength, justifying the conceit of the series nicely.
 
It isn't so much the amount of aliens on the Titan I don't like, its the non-humanoid ones I have little time for. I can easily picture a character of a species I've seen in the episodes or the films, but my poor imagination can't bring itself to see Dr. Ree interacting with Riker or Troi.

It is the same with the other series as well; as hard as I tried, I couldn't imagine anything else but Kif from Futurama when the Tzenkethi were described in Rough Beasts of Empire.

Yeah, illustrations would be nice. Like in the LOTR books.
 
Emphatically yes. It totally turned me off the series after a book-and-a-half. When characters with exclamation marks started popping up, it almost seemed to be spoofing its own premise.

Not good.
 
Considering that when we throw in all the accented characters - upper and lower case - of the extended Latin alphabet, we have an alphabet some 600 characters in size...and if my memory of that part of Elements of Typographic Style is correct, that's before we add in all the punctuation marks...I can make allowances for odder transliterations of character names from non-human languages.

Also, it's not the first time I've seen punctuation marks bent to this sort of linguistic service in science fiction. The role-playing game 2300 AD, since reinvented as 2320 AD, has done the same. Those with longer memories than mine will be able to remind us of other examples.
 
Actually, exclamation points are legitimately used to represent certain sounds in African languages. Usually glottal stops or something like that. They actually used them correctly, or at least, in a way that could've been read correctly by a linguistics major like I used to be.
 
Considering that when we throw in all the accented characters - upper and lower case - of the extended Latin alphabet, we have an alphabet some 600 characters in size...and if my memory of that part of Elements of Typographic Style is correct, that's before we add in all the punctuation marks.

That brings up something else, why do alien names all use only apostrophes and glottal stop? when was the last time you saw a Cedilla or an Umlaut used?
 
You hear that, authors? Less Teal'c and more Teälç!

(... that's not pronounced anything like "Teal'c")
 
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