So it is Option 2 on the Most Obvious Answers list after all.
http://doctorwhospoilers.com/2011/2011/04/the-companions-daughter-2/
http://doctorwhospoilers.com/2011/2011/04/the-companions-daughter-2/
Oh Dear, River Song Is... [SPOILERS!]
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I think the other person was claiming to have actually seen Episode 7, which never seemed very credible.
It certainly wouldn't be the first time they filmed a crucial scene in full public view, though. (Donna's fate was revealed that way, for one.)
Um... no, it doesn't fit what River told Rory in TIA - that the first time she met the Doctor, he knew everything about her. That's just outright not what happened in TEH. The Doctor had no idea who Amy was.
Now, the girl in the spacesuit... *That* is way more like to be Amy's daughter.
Now, the girl in the spacesuit... *That* is way more like to be Amy's daughter.
Um, we haven't seen the first time she meets him yet. We've got until Episode 13 for him to learn the identity of Amy's spawn and then meet her (as an adult) for the first time.
Out of coffee error - for some reason I was replying to the idea that River was Amy, not Amy's spawn...
I got up too fucking early...
ETA- and didn't get coffee till now.
I still don't think she'll be that either, mind you, but that's just on gut instinct.
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But the cast have already confirmed (mentioned in the RT a couple of weeks ago) that we know who River is by the end of this half-series - so by episode 6.
7. Same principle though. (If the reports are correct it doesn't sound like Episode 13 will be River's first meeting with the Doctor anyway.)
But that doesn't mean the characters know. It's an unusual form of storytelling, putting the audience out in front of the characters in the story. That's M. Night Shyamalan's stock in trade, for instance.
And Moffat has already done this -- the audience knows (or thinks they know) who the Big Bad in "The Impossible Astronaut" is, even though by the end of the hour the characters in the story don't have a frelling clue that the Big Bad even exists.
It's a dangerous thing to do, though, because if you run it too long, you run the risk of making your characters look like idiots. You don't [ireally want the audience knowing more than the characters. As an example, I expect the Doctor to find out the circumstances of his future death by the end of "Day of the Moon."
In fairness we weren't entirely convinced of the River/Idris thing and said as much in the post:
That being said, we still had to report it because as unlikely and anti-climactic as it is that Moffat's big reveal would be reliant on a character created by another writer and introduced a couple of episodes before the revelation, it still conceivably could have been true and that's the problem with reporting spoilers and stuff is that inevitably some of them aren't going to work out.
Any way, I'm a lot more convinced by this which comes from overheard dialogue during location filming where there were multiple witnesses all of whom are well regarded, regular set reporters.
Whatever's the case, we'll find out in a few weeks anyway.
A mary sue?
Oh wait..
Good one! I wouldn't be surprised if she was Amy and Rory's daughter. Yet, I would be pleasantly surprised if this pregnancy of Amy's is meant as a red herring to get folks to conjure that idea.
I think Moffat intentionally wrote that scene to remind us of the Library story.
^ Yeah I agree with The Wormhole I believe that was just a reminder of her ultimate fate.
If this turns out to be true...I don't mind it. The fact is the majority of us will be disappointed with whoever River turns out to be.
If this turns out to be true...I don't mind it. The fact is the majority of us will be disappointed with whoever River turns out to be.
Its apparent in the scene where River pleads with The Doctor to show some recognition that she knows that this is her time.
I'm going to ask what may be a really stupid question.
Why does Doctor Who do so much location shooting? Do they not know how to build and use soundstages in Cardiff or something?
There's a lot that can be done now with greenscreen and virtual location shoots, like this. If the BBC were serious about keeping spoilers under wraps, they wouldn't film the show out in the bloody open.
Because it's cheaper to dress the Temple Of Peace or Millennium Stadium up again than it is to build sets from scratch.
Of course that does also mean you end up with Dalek Spaceships being shot in barely disguised office basements...
Something that has been bugging me ever since I began watching "Torchwood", but...... the cartoon in this picture as well as the flying creature at Torchwood, I always thought those were called "Pteranodons" and not "pterodactyls". That it's the former which has the pronounced crest and not the latter.
Anyone able to clarify this?
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