Fringe: "6:02 AM EST" - 4/22 on FOX - Grading & Discussion
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Okay Han.
Seriously, show, you're killing me!
Seriously, show, you're killing me!
Oops.
Very good episode.
Noble deserves an Emmy! That scene, and the entire Peter ep, are top class. Beautiful acting!
Freaked me out when the vortex opened over Saratoga Springs, I live near there. 
Freaked me out when the vortex opened over Saratoga Springs, I live near there.
I've driven through there, pretty area.
Well it took long enough....I mean I had to sit through about a dozen disposable episodes that only offered up bits and pieces--talk about labored set-up/build-up--to finally get back to the more interesting material that had been sidelined for far, far too long. For a show whose writers claim they have 6 or 7 years worth of material to tell they don't act like it--you could dump the back half of this season and wouldn't have hardly missed anything that couldn't have been condensed into an episode or two and gutted all this wasteful filler.
The episode wasn't excellent or great but was solid set-up with a lot of interesting teases and some decent plot advancement and moving everyone and bringing the more compelling plot pieces back to the forefront. If there was one thing the show failed on was generating the kind of ominous vibe consistent with the apocalyptic tone it was suggesting. The "good-bye" scene with Peter and everyone else lasted too long and while a fair scene with Walter in the chapel it wasn't as powerful or as emotionally stirring as I think it wanted to be.
But like most set-up episodes there isn't much to analyze since it is the first act of what is a three act telefilm. Next week hopefully will be as interesting as I think it might be focusing on Sam.
Above average--
The episode wasn't excellent or great but was solid set-up with a lot of interesting teases and some decent plot advancement and moving everyone and bringing the more compelling plot pieces back to the forefront. If there was one thing the show failed on was generating the kind of ominous vibe consistent with the apocalyptic tone it was suggesting. The "good-bye" scene with Peter and everyone else lasted too long and while a fair scene with Walter in the chapel it wasn't as powerful or as emotionally stirring as I think it wanted to be.
But like most set-up episodes there isn't much to analyze since it is the first act of what is a three act telefilm. Next week hopefully will be as interesting as I think it might be focusing on Sam.
Above average--
^^ Sorry, dude, but for me, this episode was excellent. And great. Complete with ominous vibe.
It surprised me from the get-go when I realized Walternate and Dr Frankenbrandon were getting ready to throw the switch on the infernal machine now, rather than in the finale. I loved every scene with Peter, especially the nuance of the Peter/Walter "he was testing me" scene. And the goodbye scene was perfectly played, I thought, because no one wanted to be the last one to say goodbye and let Peter walk away. That hug from Astrid! All the words left unsaid but clearly conveyed! And the Fauxlivia/Lincoln scene, ditto! And the chapel scene broke my heart. John Noble is awesome.
Great season leading to a great rollercoaster ride (or runaway train) of a finale trio. Is it next Friday yet? This is gonna be a long week.
And OMG, I am SO glad there's another season on the way. This would be soul-crushing if we knew the show had been canned. I'm having way too much fun to see it end for a while yet.
It surprised me from the get-go when I realized Walternate and Dr Frankenbrandon were getting ready to throw the switch on the infernal machine now, rather than in the finale. I loved every scene with Peter, especially the nuance of the Peter/Walter "he was testing me" scene. And the goodbye scene was perfectly played, I thought, because no one wanted to be the last one to say goodbye and let Peter walk away. That hug from Astrid! All the words left unsaid but clearly conveyed! And the Fauxlivia/Lincoln scene, ditto! And the chapel scene broke my heart. John Noble is awesome.
Great season leading to a great rollercoaster ride (or runaway train) of a finale trio. Is it next Friday yet? This is gonna be a long week.
And OMG, I am SO glad there's another season on the way. This would be soul-crushing if we knew the show had been canned. I'm having way too much fun to see it end for a while yet.
That was a great episode. Everything was up against the wall and there were some surprises that I didn't expect - such as Bolivia not able to get back to Fringe's universe. Walternate is very cold ... and yet there were some light touches. I liked how Lincoln Lee is getting close to Bolivia. I liked how Walter was driven to the chapel... and everything being swallowed up by the two machines going off. This season is really great.
The one thing I didn't get was the pager. If cell phones were previously invented before they came about in Fringe's universe - why do they still wear pagers?
The one thing I didn't get was the pager. If cell phones were previously invented before they came about in Fringe's universe - why do they still wear pagers?
I was thinking Peter was rejected by our machine because he's not 'our' Peter, he's theirs, but Fauxliva took a piece of the machine from our world to hers which suggests it wouldn't matter.
Thought it was "above avg" and Nobel needs an Emmy for his work on this show.
Thought it was "above avg" and Nobel needs an Emmy for his work on this show.
I assume the machine once powered up cannot be stopped by even Peter and I like the idea that because the baby only has 50% of Peters DNA its powering up slowly taking our Earth little piece by piece. I would of loved to see a power up scene from the other side though 
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Really enjoyed this episode. I was also surprised Fauxlivia's attempt to reach the other side didn't work, but I guess as a whole this episode is just about a certain something hitting the fan and in the next two perhaps our heroes will find a way to work something out. Or maybe they won't! I suppose it could be cool if the universes sort of lost 50% each and we were left with a single universe made of parts from both for the fourth season.
If there's anything negative about this episode, I guess it'd be that it makes the William Bell episodes seem extra pointless in retrospect. It'd be nice if they were headed into this crisis with at least one little piece of info gleaned from Bell's return. But that's more me complaining about the past episodes and I've already done that.
Joshua Jackson looked really great in this episode, sort of like a superhero or something. I don't know, I'm having a hard time putting it into words, but everything about his appearance and posture made him seem almost...regal?
If there's anything negative about this episode, I guess it'd be that it makes the William Bell episodes seem extra pointless in retrospect. It'd be nice if they were headed into this crisis with at least one little piece of info gleaned from Bell's return. But that's more me complaining about the past episodes and I've already done that.
Joshua Jackson looked really great in this episode, sort of like a superhero or something. I don't know, I'm having a hard time putting it into words, but everything about his appearance and posture made him seem almost...regal?
So I'm guessing that Sam is one of the First People. And he's like a guardian to make sure one universe doesn't kerplode another. Maybe his people left but he stayed behind out of responsibility.
Could the Observers be the First People? Could Sam be a former Observer? I can't picture him bald
Could the Observers be the First People? Could Sam be a former Observer? I can't picture him bald
I've definitely long stopped thinking about Joshua Jackson as Pacey from Dawson's Creek. He's come a long way since that show.
Why do people only want mythology episodes? I like breather episodes, as they can take a break from what is sometimes tedious. Too much mythology just builds with no payoff. Remember Lost and Heroes? Those shows are proof that that does not work.
Non-mythos episodes give us fresh stories. When mythology episodes are kept in reserve, we get something to anticipate. Add in the fact that Fringe is really great about giving conclusions to story threads while starting new ones and we have a brilliant story machine.
Non-mythos episodes give us fresh stories. When mythology episodes are kept in reserve, we get something to anticipate. Add in the fact that Fringe is really great about giving conclusions to story threads while starting new ones and we have a brilliant story machine.
Checkmate
Commodore
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the Observers are the First People. Sam may just be of a different faction or them or something.So I'm guessing that Sam is one of the First People. And he's like a guardian to make sure one universe doesn't kerplode another. Maybe his people left but he stayed behind out of responsibility.
Could the Observers be the First People? Could Sam be a former Observer? I can't picture him bald
Of course, these are the same guys who gave us Lost, so chances are they're just making it all up as they go and it'll end making no fucking sense whatsoever.