The Master to return?

[Satyrquaze]

Matt Smith's Doctor was fooled by the Daleks and trapped by the coalition of baddies trying to save the universe.

I don't believe that He's be able to defeat the Master unless that incarnation of the Master was similarlly easy to fool.

 

[starsuperion]

Personally I wouldn't want Cumberbatch in Doctor Who at all.. he is suited well for sherlock holmes, but I just don't see him as a character for WHO either in the Master or Doctor roles. On that note, I really hope we let the Master be for a good long while, I would prefer they concentrate on some of the older and unused villains in the Whoniverse instead. We could have the return of the Celestial Toy maker, a new up-to-date Ice warriors (building upon the waters of mars) or for more ferocity, I say the High intelligence and his robotic yeti minions!

but could we please, please let the master go for now..Why not bring back the warlord, or the dream master in a corporeal form, a sort of psychic living being who wants form now or some such matter..

there is such a wide variety to choose from, it seems so tired to keep flopping between cybermen, daleks, and the master..

 

[Captaindemotion]

^ The latter three are arguably Doctor Who's most infamous and definitive foes, though. You can't go too long without one or another of them.

 

[marillion]

Was there even an attempt to explain how he came back after the McGann movie? If that is considered canon, then whatever fate befell the Master must also be, right? Honestly, I can't remember what happened to the Master at the end of that one...

It was sort of explained. Kind of.

The Master merely stated that he was "resurrected" by the Time Lords to fight in the Time War.

Oh right.. d'oh.. I had forgotten that, but now I remember.. Plot Convenience Theatre...

 

[starsuperion]

^ The latter three are arguably Doctor Who's most infamous and definitive foes, though. You can't go too long without one or another of them.

this is very true. However, there have been new additions to the villains roster of late, most notably the weeping angels. Why not let Moffat work on bringing in a new class of notable and definitive characters, if not to replace those classic and standard ones, but to add more spice as it were to the universe.

I am all in favour of seeing more Daleks, and Cybers, don't get me wrong, and even the master should creep back from time to time. He was in the last special before the 1st matt smith run, why not let him rest another 2 seasons or so before bringing him back int he mix? I don't see the harm in that..

I like the use of the vashta nerada in the video adventure games, and hope that walking bone suits and shadows reappear in the subsequent series going forward, with maybe a weakness found to add some spice to the conflict. Afterall what use is there having a villain the Doctor can't defeat.

But, overall, I would prefer the Master enjoy his rest, and remain time locked or scattered to the far corners of the universe for the next couple series.

 

[Cutter John]

I like to think the Black Guardian has to be out there somewhere, still holding a grudge.

Although the Toymaker would be cool. Always thought a story with something like the Game Station from the first season would fit nicely.

But yeah, give the Master (and the Daleks) a rest for a few years. Would make their eventual return that much more epic. Though personally, I thought The End of Time was a great way to retire the character for good.

 

[Worf2DS9]

Right now, I would sooner see Julian Bleach return as Davros than see a return of the Master, if only to see how he's getting along with the new Paradigm (or whatever that word is). Would he be in an even worse position than he was in "Stolen Earth"/"Journey's End", as far as thinking he was in control while he was really being played? Maybe the new daleks see him as a bug to be squashed.

 

[Davros]

Since they didn't show him die, I assumed he would return.

If the history of the show is used as a guide, he would return even if they showed him die.

True

 

[arch101]

Hmmm. The Master appropriating Rory's body as he did Tremas? Hmmmm

 

[Gov Kodos]

I don't mind the Master returning, I rather expect it eventually. I do hope they cast someone new and that they down down the insanity angle. He doesn't have to be mad to be the villain.

 

[Capt_Pickirk]

I'd rather they get a much older actor to play the master. To play off Smith's 'Old man in a Young man's body'. You could have a 'Young man in an Old man's body.'



Even though the master is about the same age as the doctor...



Isn't he?

 

[Starkers]

I've always said that as well, they probably are about the same age, but that doesn't mean they have to act the same age

 

[Guy Gardener]

Exactly the same age. They were in the same classes at "school".

Although Romana, I think said that the doctor had to repeat some of his studies.

DOCTOR: Yes, I suppose it must be for someone as young and inexperienced as you are.
ROMANA: I may be inexperienced, but I did graduate from the Academy with a triple first.
DOCTOR: I suppose you think we should be impressed by that, too?
ROMANA: Well, it's better than scraping through with fifty one percent at the second attempt.
DOCTOR: That information is confidential! That President. I should have thrown him to the Sontarans when I had the chance.

The Master had graduated and ran screaming by the time he was 8 years old perhaps together with the Doctor for the next 72 years and change.

How long does their schooling last?

Perhaps it's virtual?

The first doctor didn't recognise him, although his body at the time wasn't Galifreia... And that Doctor might have been an Android.

Never mind.

 

[Newspaper Taxi]

I'd rather they not replace Simm. With as seldom as the Master appears anymore I think it would be counter-productive to replace him everytime a Doctor regenerates. Just like it takes awhile for a Doctor to hit his stride it takes a Master awhile to do that, too. I wasn't overly impressed with Simm in his first run but I loved him in his "End of Time" appearance. I'd like to see him continue to grow instead of suddenly meeting a new one, and then another new one, and so on.

 

[Samurai8472]

Quite so. The Master has come out of worse scrapes then this without any explanation. I worry not. The Master will return.

The Doctor- How did you escape the Time Lock

The Master- Oh there will be plenty of time to explain that.

 

[Whofan]

Ainley went through four current Doctors during the 80s (and met three more in "Five Doctors"), so Simm might be able to do something similar.


A multi-Master story would be interesting, but most of the actors have either passed (Delgado, Ainley, Pratt) or are problematic for other reasons (Roberts & Jacobi presumabely are busy and were only the Master briefly, Beevers is more of an audio Master nowadays)

 

[SonicRanger]

Exactly the same age. They were in the same classes at "school".

That means nothing for time travelers encountering each other at disconnected points in time.

The Doctor is, say, 900 from his own perspective. That doesn't mean the Doctor was born 900 years ago from "now." The Master could be 300 or 1800 from his own perspective, but he still could have gone to school with the Doctor.

 

[Guy Gardener]

The transenduction barriers keep the Timelords contemporary with one another and the planet. The first law of time stops Timelords from tripping over their own past, which would extend to the relative pasts of everyone they should know, in mutuality with that timevision which 10 was explaining in the fires of Pompei, then supposedly if two or more timelords were out of sync, then they would know about it and it would probably grate as much as Jack does when the Doctor tries to match him in the eye... Not that the Brickyard made the hair on the back of anyone's neck stand on end during the Trial of a Timelord.

Besides it would be dangerous for the Master to kill "a" Doctor pre-dating any of his own pivotal life choices, thus altering and...

Mirror Universe.

What if the Eight lost in the Movie. Would that have meant that The master would have sucked McGanns appearance off him, or that upon his first "acquired" regeneration that he would have transformed into Eccleston?

 

[SonicRanger]

The transenduction barriers keep the Timelords contemporary with one another and the planet.

Doctors have crossed paths more than once, and the Doctor, as we have seen, can go from 2000s Earth to 1960s Earth to far future Earth and back again.

And certainly this wouldn't apply to the Master, who "died" and was brought back somehow for the Time War after some unspecified period at some point in time (or perhaps out of time).

 

[Guy Gardener]

The first time it happened in the 3 Doctors the Timelords made a big deal about breaking the first law of time. The 5 doctors was also at the orchestration of the presidential office of Gallifrey. And the two Doctors was mirror universe fun since that two had already diverged from that 6's life history.

It's plain to see that this law about elbow space is more about being in line of sight (pun intended.) with one another considering some of the shit Seven was pulling that he wasn't just reaping the whirlwind with all sorts of mess his earlier editions hadn't gotten around to cleaning up.