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Your religious beliefs

What religious beliefs do you have?


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Some people up-thread said they find traditionalist ways of worship to be boring. Well, I'm the exact opposite. That's exactly why I find the Catholic Church so appealing. The regimented structure of the service is really inspiring, IMO. I never really felt God's presence in a Protestant service (and I've been to quite a few besides Baptist and Methodist - Church of Christ, Disciples of Christ, Church of the Nazarene, Lutheran, Presbyterian, Episcopalian, etc.). But I do feel a sense of "other-worldliness" in a Catholic service.

If I had to go back to church I would go for liturgical. I find it much more reflective, meditative and personally meaningful. Spent some years in that, but it was liturgy lite that just got lite-er until it vanished, LOL. As it stands now I find most evangelical services to be self indulgent from all the blah blah me me talk to the horrible lyrics in choruses. I can't even imagine going back to that stuff.
 
I have also found that my thinking and my faith have been deeply influenced by Russian Orthodoxy through the writing of Dostoyevsky, Tolstoy, Solzhenitsyn, and other Russian authors.

That's the Cardassian in you :)

Some of the most sincere depictions of my faith, the ones that speak to me the most and taught me, are in those books. I do have theological reasons for remaining Protestant, but I have heard some say that Methodism does tend to lend itself more towards certain Orthodox concepts than most Protestant denominations (particularly when it comes to sanctification). I learned a lot from C.S. Lewis, too, but nothing beats Dostoyevsky.

I always thought Bashir made a mistake introducing Garak to human literature with Shakespeare. I always thought Crime and Punishment would have been a far more appropriate choice. We know from the start of the book that Raskolnikov was guilty. The whole thing is about the psychological stress as he breaks down under the weight of what he's done and comes to accept that he needs to be punished. Yet on the other hand you'd have some very, very "subversive" human concepts in there: warnings against encroaching authoritarianism, the concept of faith and forgiveness, and so on.

I can tell you that I definitely think of my main two Cardassian universes as being based in part on Russian culture.

I'm genuinely curious, though...is that what you saw as well, or was it something different?
 
I use to go to my local Anglican Church when I was younger. I still believe in God, but just don't go to church anymore, except for a few times a year. I have thought about returning.
 
I have also found that my thinking and my faith have been deeply influenced by Russian Orthodoxy through the writing of Dostoyevsky, Tolstoy, Solzhenitsyn, and other Russian authors.

That's the Cardassian in you :)

Some of the most sincere depictions of my faith, the ones that speak to me the most and taught me, are in those books. I do have theological reasons for remaining Protestant, but I have heard some say that Methodism does tend to lend itself more towards certain Orthodox concepts than most Protestant denominations (particularly when it comes to sanctification). I learned a lot from C.S. Lewis, too, but nothing beats Dostoyevsky.

I always thought Bashir made a mistake introducing Garak to human literature with Shakespeare. I always thought Crime and Punishment would have been a far more appropriate choice. We know from the start of the book that Raskolnikov was guilty. The whole thing is about the psychological stress as he breaks down under the weight of what he's done and comes to accept that he needs to be punished. Yet on the other hand you'd have some very, very "subversive" human concepts in there: warnings against encroaching authoritarianism, the concept of faith and forgiveness, and so on.

I can tell you that I definitely think of my main two Cardassian universes as being based in part on Russian culture.

I'm genuinely curious, though...is that what you saw as well, or was it something different?

That's what I saw, I've always equated Cardassia to Dostoevsky and by expansion Russia. The fatalism and the peace found in that fatalism is found in Russia and Cardassian culture I think.

The Brothers Karamazov was a very interesting religious novel that wrestles with faith in a way I never saw in evangelicalism, that's my favorite of the ones I've read. That is an excellent point about the Shakespeare vs Crime and Punishment which I'm sure Garak would have enjoyed. I suspect Bashir was keen to give him a Great Work that was also English where his family had their roots.
 
Clearly I should be doing more converting.
Indeed. I mean, gods with elephant heads. Blue dudes. Giant cobras. You can't get more awesome than that.

Clearly I should be doing more converting.
And what is the retirement plan like?:)
Dissolution of the self in the eternal bliss of the cosmic consciousness, or another round at the carousel. That's pretty rad, compared with playing a lyre on some cloud.


Yeah. But still not as good as bacon.
 
I have an unusual belief system. I'm Christian In the sense that I believe that "lord baby Jesus" was a real man. I believe he was enveloped with the holy spirit. I don't know where I stand with emaculate conception. I also believe each major religious figure such as Bhuda, Moses, Muhamud, Jesus and so on, were all prophets of "God". They were put there for each culture at certain times because that was what that culture needed at the time. I believe all of the religions of the universe are traced back to one "God". I believe god and nature are one in the same. Nature is god, it creates, destroys and controls the universe, it is the universe. I believe it is more like the force rather a god, a man. God has no form. I believe in evolution, but I also believe that the bible's story of creation coencides with evolution. That is not to say I think the world is only 6000 years old, I think man screwed that up.

I believe in destiny, but yet I believe in free will, as in we have several paths to the same destiny, but we also have free will to change that destiny or not follow that destiny. I don't believe in Christianity as a religion, but as an extension of Judaism. I choose to follow the teachings of Jesus, but I think it doesen't really matter which philosphy you follow because there are many paths to enlightenment/heaven/nirvana. I also like the teachings of Bhudha. I don't believe in denominations. I don't woship anywhere. I am not a strict religious man. I don't practice my beliefs and in reality, I'm pretty much a big time sinner. I wish I could be more Zen, but this world is too fucked up. Those are my beliefs, I believe in them very strongly, but don't practice them.
You should look into the Bahá'í faith (it's pretty much unknown in the West, but it's quite popular in India and neighbouring countries, with around 5 million followers worldwide). It seems to be quite close to your own beliefs.
 
I have an unusual belief system. I'm Christian In the sense that I believe that "lord baby Jesus" was a real man. I believe he was enveloped with the holy spirit. I don't know where I stand with emaculate conception. I also believe each major religious figure such as Bhuda, Moses, Muhamud, Jesus and so on, were all prophets of "God". They were put there for each culture at certain times because that was what that culture needed at the time. I believe all of the religions of the universe are traced back to one "God". I believe god and nature are one in the same. Nature is god, it creates, destroys and controls the universe, it is the universe. I believe it is more like the force rather a god, a man. God has no form. I believe in evolution, but I also believe that the bible's story of creation coencides with evolution. That is not to say I think the world is only 6000 years old, I think man screwed that up.

I believe in destiny, but yet I believe in free will, as in we have several paths to the same destiny, but we also have free will to change that destiny or not follow that destiny. I don't believe in Christianity as a religion, but as an extension of Judaism. I choose to follow the teachings of Jesus, but I think it doesen't really matter which philosphy you follow because there are many paths to enlightenment/heaven/nirvana. I also like the teachings of Bhudha. I don't believe in denominations. I don't woship anywhere. I am not a strict religious man. I don't practice my beliefs and in reality, I'm pretty much a big time sinner. I wish I could be more Zen, but this world is too fucked up. Those are my beliefs, I believe in them very strongly, but don't practice them.
You seemed to be agnostic or confused because you cant cherry pick from every religion and mingle them up into one as you see fit.
If you are believer in Christ as found in the New Testament you have to reject f.e. Muhammad as the prophet of God as he reject the crucifixion, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Three biggest element in Christianity.
Same thing if you are a Muslim. You have to reject Judaism and Christianity as false. There is no middle way.
Also i am pretty sure three is no God concept in Buddhism and they(Buddhist) dont regard Buddha as prophet of God. However i am not that dept in Buddhism so i could be wrong.
 
You seemed to be agnostic or confused because you cant cherry pick from every religion and mingle them up into one as you see fit. (...) There is no middle way.
Not really. Only if you are really close-minded about it.

People can believe as they choose. Strict orthodoxy, liberal interpretation, pick-and-mix, whatever.

In fact, the idea that there is only one path for spirituality and that all the others are false is pretty much confined to some very specific brands of monotheism.
 
Δx Δpħ / 2

where Δx is the indeterminacy of the religion's deity, Δp the uncertainty of the believer's faith, and ħ the Consciousness constant of the Universe.
 
Catholic, at least by tradition.

I was raised Catholic, went to Catholic schools, etc.

There are many things about the church that I admire and respect. I agree with the poster who spoke of the power of traditional Mass. I really enjoy it. I also appreciate the deeper, symbolic/metaphorical view of the bible versus a literal reading (which leads to all kinds of real-life complications).

However, there are so many things (political/social things) that I disagree with that I find it hard to claim membership. I am pro-choice, pro-gay rights, etc. And the Church's reaction to the child abuse scandal has left me both cold and angry at the same time. In the end, I do not believe Jesus was the Son of God in any meaningfully different way than you or I are. So in that sense, the church would not claim me anyway.

I suppose there is not one organization or social grouping with which I agree on everything (family, city, state, fraternity brothers, etc.). So, I struggle.

I suppose if any of you have ever read Conversations with God, that book sums up my actual spiritual beliefs pretty well.
 
All right, this is something that just bugs me so I'll put it out here, just out of curiosity, to see what other people's opinions are about it.

If you look at this Wiki page, there are literally hundreds of Christian denominations.

Why? I just don't get it. Because last I checked they all claimed to believe in the same God.
 
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