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How is Janeway sexy?

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That is true. Chak was safe, obviously if he didn't fight too much. :lol:

The only relationships that were amazing were the one's on DS9: Kira/Odo, Jadzia/Worf, Sisko/Kassidy. Am I missing any?

I ship Jadzia/Sisko too, just to be weird. :lol:
 
What I find odd is that people always say 7 was added to the show for sex appeal, to sex it up. But then they say she is too much of a child to have a relationship. If this was really true that would be incredibly creepy.

Yes, that is horribly creepy. :wtf:

I should stress I think Seven can get into a relationship - with someone more her equal in age/experience. Harry Kim. Or the Doc - he's only a few years old. Like Seven, he has the combined knowledge of many sentient beings, but he's still a kid in some ways. Just like her.

Seven is an unusual and special case, I know. But Janeway, as a character, is not keen on getting into sexual relationships with her crew, and particularly not her younger charges. I couldn't see her with Tal Celes, either.
 
What I find odd is that people always say 7 was added to the show for sex appeal, to sex it up. But then they say she is too much of a child to have a relationship. If this was really true that would be incredibly creepy.

Yes, that is horribly creepy. :wtf:

I should stress I think Seven can get into a relationship - with someone more her equal in age/experience. Harry Kim. Or the Doc - he's only a few years old. Like Seven, he has the combined knowledge of many sentient beings, but he's still a kid in some ways. Just like her.

Seven is an unusual and special case, I know. But Janeway, as a character, is not keen on getting into sexual relationships with her crew, and particularly not her younger charges. I couldn't see her with Tal Celes, either.

I agree with you about Janeway/crew, but it works in shipper land because the characters are either totally cut off from VOY reality in the first place OR they are set up in very extreme circumstances where people's natural boundaries are weakened. Or it's just porn :lol:
 
I agree with you about Janeway/crew, but it works in shipper land because the characters are either totally cut off from VOY reality in the first place OR they are set up in very extreme circumstances where people's natural boundaries are weakened. Or it's just porn :lol:

Okay, you got me there. :lol: (Man, I'm going on and and on about this, and the video I'm working on would seem to declare quite the opposite of what I've been writing. :rofl:)

Also, uh oh, Trip's been invoked. :lol: He wants his T'Pol back.
 
Actually I have to leave the house now and go out into the sunshine so I will have to put off the war until later. Or until you finish ENT! Then you may have defected, LOL!
 
yeah though as I always say Chakotay is a nice, safe man, just one step up from holo-Chak and I think he will treat her well and be a good practice relationship for her.

She had a great relationship with the Doctor, very well developed and fleshed out. Shame they couldn't do a romance for her that developed but Trek does suck at romance most of the time.

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What I find odd is that people always say 7 was added to the show for sex appeal, to sex it up. But then they say she is too much of a child to have a relationship. If this was really true that would be incredibly creepy.

Yes, that is horribly creepy. :wtf:

I should stress I think Seven can get into a relationship - with someone more her equal in age/experience. Harry Kim. Or the Doc - he's only a few years old. Like Seven, he has the combined knowledge of many sentient beings, but he's still a kid in some ways. Just like her.

Seven is an unusual and special case, I know. But Janeway, as a character, is not keen on getting into sexual relationships with her crew, and particularly not her younger charges. I couldn't see her with Tal Celes, either.

I disagree re: 7/EMH for a variety of reasons. I don't care if he's sentient, or not... what I care about is the compatibility of beings and the disparity in power.

Remember when Data was dating that woman on the Enterprise? She "tried" to get emotionally invested with him, but finally realized she gave up one cold distant lover for a mechanical man who was the ultimate in cold distant lovers. The fact that he was multitasking during their kiss was the straw that broke the camel's back with her. The EMH is just a holographic Data as far as I'm concerned. Seven may be more mechanical than the average human, but she's still not to the computer level that the EMH is from an "evolutionary" viewpoint.

And, I'm sorry, but on a ship with 150 beings... there are several significant no-nos when it comes to Doctors and Patients. "Shipping" them is a HUGE no-no! :klingon:

Think about it.

For the last half of the last year, the Doctor was actively planning how to remove the block from her cortical implant that prevented her from feeling intense emotions without suffering a computer meltdown, DESPITE the fact she already told him she didn't want the surgery... AND as soon as she asked about removing that block he not only offered her the remedy in "one simple procedure"... he also offered himself as a suitor.

Now... does she accept his offer because he's doing this amazing surgery for her... or does she reject his offer because "she's just not into him that way" and worry that perhaps he will not do his level best now that he's not going to reap the sexual benefits of her new found freedom? :confused:

The EMH's job/mission is the health/benefit of his patients, just like Janeway's job/mission is to do everything she can to get her crew home safely. Neither can get into a relationship with those who depend upon them doing their job. That's why Jaffen was the only viable choice for Janeway, and she couldn't choose him because once he was aboard he became one of those people she couldn't choose. (Crusher could get involved with Picard because she wasn't the only Doctor on Enterprise)

As for the rest of her options...

Seven would have lost her mother figure if she had a relationship with Janeway beyond the maintext one.

I don't think Chak is a "good practice" relationship simply because HE doesn't need the practice. He's "too" mature and would be looking at the relationship from a vantagepoint Seven couldn't begin to understand.

There's always Mortimer Herren from the Good Shepard, but he's MORE mechanical than Seven!

I think the only one that could have been her potential choice was Harry... but that wasn't going to happen unless and until TPTB let him grow up more than they did. He was smart, they worked well together, but unfortunately his track record with woman meant that ship was doomed to sink even before it sailed.

As for "Seven sexing up" the show, I think "what we see is what we get" from a sexing up the show theme. Breasts out to "here" and a shape that most would look at twice if she walked by was all TPTB wanted to do to grab the attention of Mr Nielson and his sons.

Making her as smart, as distant, as complex, as wounded as they did meant that for those of us who watched the show for its "serious themes" wouldn't run from our sets screaming everytime she was on screen.

I certainly didn't!

(I'll see your young Kate in a sack, in a field, with a bird and raise you a more mature Kate on a holdeck with a quill pen and a fireplace !) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkFayt5sVos
 
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Do you have to be right J'Rulz? :bolian:

Everything in that whole post is completely true.

Having Seven and the Doc get together wouldn't have worked. :( Such wasted chemistry though . . . . . :wah:


And I'll raise both of teacake's Kate in a sack, and J'Rulz Kate by a fireplace writing, with an irritated Janeway.

[YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8-917vo9C8&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/YT]
 
She could always sleep with the Doc, he's not technically a crewmember.



Wait . . . The ECH destroyed that! Damn! :guffaw:


Pattern enhancers it is.
 
On those days where you're just not feeling yourself

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That's because you're not yourself.
 
^ Borg!Janeway: decidedly not sexy. I think we have found our one instance of non-sexiness.

EDIT: Actually, I'll amend that: she's still a sexy BAMF at heart, but her outer appearance is decidedly marred. And she did get assimilated willingly, which is pretty BAMF-y as well.

After reading about how Janeway and 7 can't get it on with each other or anyone else I guess we are back to this..


Somehow, we always come back 'round to pattern enhancers.
 
It is pretty BAMFy. I mean she did willingly walk into it after hearing the horror stories about Picard's assimilation. :)

But I want to know why the writer's always had this obsession with Tuvok losing control

And of course we come back to pattern enhancers.

When all else fails, there will be pattern enhancers. :rofl:
 
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