Depends, it gets cold in space and some shrinkage occurs.
Exactly how big is Unicron?
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I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm certainly okay with a bit of absurdity both in G1 and in the live-action films -- heck, I thought the first film was thoroughly absurd and expected the second one to be more of the same -- which is probably why I enjoyed the sequel while just about everyone else felt scandalized by it.
Hey liked both movies, all I want from Transformers is giant robots beating the crap out of each other.
They had to get Orson Welles to portary him. I think that tells you all you need to know about Unicron's mass.
He never seems to feed on energon that I can recall, instead getting the bulk of his energy from the planets he consumes. In the very early draft of the animated movie, though, Ingestor (who would become Unicron) did spend a good chunk of the movie sucking up energy so that he finally had enough to transform at the end. Presumably the same rule would apply to Primus as well, since he and Unicron predate the Cybertronian race.
If Unicron remians planet-sized for more than 4 hours, please consult a doctor-bot.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm certainly okay with a bit of absurdity both in G1 and in the live-action films -- heck, I thought the first film was thoroughly absurd and expected the second one to be more of the same -- which is probably why I enjoyed the sequel while just about everyone else felt scandalized by it.
Hey liked both movies, all I want from Transformers is giant robots beating the crap out of each other.
Exactly. The films are just big popcorn, mindless entertainment. Something that is perfectly fine. I've seen, though, on some boards, Transformers fans are just livid over the films. The reaction makes me wonder if they ever watched the cartoon!
On paper, Galactus hands down. He's essentially one of the prime forces of the universe. One of the Lesser Outer Gods, as it were; whereas Unicron is merely a Great Old One (not an Elder God, as previously mentioned).
In the comics (because it sure won't happen anywhere else), it will, of course, depend on how much the writer plays up each entity's cosmic power level.
In the comics (because it sure won't happen anywhere else), it will, of course, depend on how much the writer plays up each entity's cosmic power level.
It's a cartoon so obviously, his scale varies from scene to scene.
Still, it doesn't take a ton of fanboy fussing to make him "work". Transformers mass shift all the time. If you forgive Unicron's robot form being slightly off the mark in one scene to the next, all you have to assume is that his planet/mass consumption/travel form, is indeed a Saturine world. He shrinks down to robot form, with his various components folding in upon themselves over and over into hyperspace.
That's all; just the reverse of the typical Transformers change where the vehicle gets more mass to fill out the bigger robot.
Still, it doesn't take a ton of fanboy fussing to make him "work". Transformers mass shift all the time. If you forgive Unicron's robot form being slightly off the mark in one scene to the next, all you have to assume is that his planet/mass consumption/travel form, is indeed a Saturine world. He shrinks down to robot form, with his various components folding in upon themselves over and over into hyperspace.
That's all; just the reverse of the typical Transformers change where the vehicle gets more mass to fill out the bigger robot.
I always found it funny how in one of the Marvel issues, there's a scene with several Autobots and Decepticons battling. And Omega Supreme seems to be getting knocked over... by Buzzsaw. He sure had a lot of rage for not getting to do much of anything outside the comics. 
I always found it funny how in one of the Marvel issues, there's a scene with several Autobots and Decepticons battling. And Omega Supreme seems to be getting knocked over... by Buzzsaw. He sure had a lot of rage for not getting to do much of anything outside the comics.
Is that the one where the Autobots win the battle and take six or seven hostages? Issue 70 (UK) or there abouts.
That's just it though; Unicron didn't mass shift. His planet and body form were matched.
I'm sort of getting at what you wrote in your first line. He's supposed to be a big planet killer, but in effect he's actually only about 5-10 miles long.
Which issue/story? Would love to see that; can't instantly remember seeing it.
It was in US #50 (UK #208), when Starscream got the power of the Underbase. The same fight scene shows a couple of other odd matchups, like Apeface fighting (and understandably beating) Beachcomber, who's half his size at best. But the fact that Buzzsaw seems to be having a significant effect on Omega by himself, even being the Marvel incarnation of Buzzsaw, is rather funny.
Buzzsaw didn't get much chance to celebrate before he was killed by Starscream.
Which issue/story? Would love to see that; can't instantly remember seeing it.
It was in US #50 (UK #208), when Starscream got the power of the Underbase. The same fight scene shows a couple of other odd matchups, like Apeface fighting (and understandably beating) Beachcomber, who's half his size at best. But the fact that Buzzsaw seems to be having a significant effect on Omega by himself, even being the Marvel incarnation of Buzzsaw, is rather funny.
I always thought the Underbase story was cool until I read the final installments and realised it was simply a way of removing older Transformers from the comic.
I don't even know how it worked properly (the timelines got so poluted after a while); Starscream kills Skywarp and Thundercracker, yet they are alive when Megatron is thrown out of Astrotrain in order to become Galvatron in the movie.
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That's because they're two separate continuities. Even though Marvel did an adaptation of the animated movie, and Galvatron was always considered to be an alternate future version of Megatron, the Marvel continuity completely ignores the animated continuity with very few exceptions. Characters in the comics took damage more regularly, and the majority who did get killed were mainly destroyed by Starscream with the Underbase power (which is essentially the power cosmic).
The UK comics get even more confusing when it comes to continuity because they have a whole range of exclusive extra filler. They were printed weekly where the American edition only occurred monthly, and issues that were back to back in the American run were sometimes spread apart by several issues in the UK. So they basically had to invent a lot of stuff to cover the time between the American issues being reprinted. Oftentimes small edits where made to reflect changes in the respective continuities. Thus Bumblebee's evolution into Goldbug has two different takes in the comics, and a third in the cartoon.
Confused yet?
Oddly enough, in the very early draft of the animated movie, Thundercracker and Skywarp are clearly implied to be casualties in the assault on Autobot City (Thundercracker gets cut in half by Bluestreak with a sword), yet later they are named as part of Shockwave's defense forces when Unicron attacks Cybertron. And they get killed again fighting Unicron.
The UK comics get even more confusing when it comes to continuity because they have a whole range of exclusive extra filler. They were printed weekly where the American edition only occurred monthly, and issues that were back to back in the American run were sometimes spread apart by several issues in the UK. So they basically had to invent a lot of stuff to cover the time between the American issues being reprinted. Oftentimes small edits where made to reflect changes in the respective continuities. Thus Bumblebee's evolution into Goldbug has two different takes in the comics, and a third in the cartoon.
Confused yet?
Oddly enough, in the very early draft of the animated movie, Thundercracker and Skywarp are clearly implied to be casualties in the assault on Autobot City (Thundercracker gets cut in half by Bluestreak with a sword), yet later they are named as part of Shockwave's defense forces when Unicron attacks Cybertron. And they get killed again fighting Unicron.
Which issue/story? Would love to see that; can't instantly remember seeing it.
It was in US #50 (UK #208), when Starscream got the power of the Underbase. The same fight scene shows a couple of other odd matchups, like Apeface fighting (and understandably beating) Beachcomber, who's half his size at best. But the fact that Buzzsaw seems to be having a significant effect on Omega by himself, even being the Marvel incarnation of Buzzsaw, is rather funny.
Awesome.
You don't mess with Buzzsaw.
The Underbase saga was round about where I started to lose interest in the comics. Just before that you had the utterly awesome Time Wars story in the UK strip, which beautifully tied up so many long-running loose ends over several years worth of backstory, that its conclusion felt like a fitting end to the TF story.
I kept reading a bit longer, but the interest began to wane slowly at this point.
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