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Marvel's "Fear Itself"

^ It is starting to show lately...have to admit that. I really don't think he wanted to bring back Steve as early as he did quite frankly. I know he has given interviews saying that there was always a plan for him to return, but I wouldn't be surprised if the upcoming movie advanced those plans.
 
I don't know. The book was pretty boring before Steve came back. There was really a steep drop off in the book around half way through the big Red Skull Takes Over America arc. I finally dropped it a few months back.
 
I enjoyed the entire Winter Soldier / Death of Cap / Red Skull storyline that ran for what like 42 issues. Everything after has been pretty boring though. Well, Cap Rebirth was pretty cool because it finally took place in the Avengery Norman Osborn world and not in its own cosmos.
 
I stopped caring midway during the arc with the 50s cap. After the character assassination he pulled on Zemo, I just don't care anymore. Who'd have thought his portrayal of an ex-Nazi would be the tipping point for me.
 
Admiral_Young said:
^ It is starting to show lately...have to admit that. I really don't think he wanted to bring back Steve as early as he did quite frankly. I know he has given interviews saying that there was always a plan for him to return, but I wouldn't be surprised if the upcoming movie advanced those plans.
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That doesn't explain how Secret Avengers is utter crap.

Two arcs in, the only interesting story was the Max Fury standalone. Everything else was rubbish.

Looks like Bru can join Johns, Bendis, Waid and Fraction in the JumpedtheShark table.
 
Secret Avengers #11 comes out today and I really was only getting it for Moon Knight. MK had literally zero exposure in about 3 issues and only a few panels in about that many more. It picked up for MK the last two issues but after issue #12 and this arc concludes I"m dropping the book.

The Max Fury stuff was fun though.
 
Admiral_Young said:
Yeah Secret Avengers devolved very quickly. Maybe that's why he left that book after only two arcs.
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It wasn't going anywhere. The Shadow Council was portrayed from the start as a rather weak adversary. Much like his work on DD, Bru just can't seem to capture the creative spark he had while writing the first 50 or so issues of Captain America.
 
Event stories imo don't really have "creative integrity" (i can't really phrase what i mean but that's the closest), the way a legendary multi-issue run by a really good writer/artist team does.

I would say even ongoing series struggle with this "creative integrity", because of the over-abundance of content + the lack of quality control of said content.

Harry Potter would not be the same story if it were interspersed with shitty chapters written by other writers, some good, some bad, etc.

If everything that happened, really happened in continuity, then there's little dramatic resonance or emotional believability behind any story. It's literally crisis number 7,325. If everything happened, think about how many deaths and explosions and rebirths they've been a part of. After a certain point its just not believable or special anymore. Heck even TV shows that go longer than like 4 or 5 seasons suffer from this, to say nothing of comic books.

I love, for instance, Grant Morrison's X-Men run... but if you think about ALL the X-Men continuity, the story feels a lot less special. It's just one of a thousand different "wild swings" that happens every year. Within a year half of it was gone.

It's because of this that I don't even follow continuities anymore. I just wait until a writer's run starts gaining fan + critical buzz, then catch up on just that run. As long as there's a healthy amount of issues in that run, it ends up feeling more or less like a filling story.
 
i like Secret Avengers. granted, its not the best team book out there but better that most. each issue is a quick, fun read. certainly better than Avengers or New Avengers. Moon Knight is underused in that book though. and Max Fury was great.
 
But those two are written by Bendis so there is an excuse. Of all the team books currently published, I think X-Force and X-Factor are both worlds better than SA. X-Force certainly does the black ops angle better.
 
Hound of UIster said:
But those two are written by Bendis so there is an excuse. Of all the team books currently published, I think X-Force and X-Factor are both worlds better than SA. X-Force certainly does the black ops angle better.
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haven't read X-Factor. but on X-Force, i agree. great book.
 
Hulk smash Dracula!!

I was under the impression that Banner was depowered. And the few times he has turned into the lovable green monster that we know, he has been "intellectually suppressed" into being a pidgin-English-speaking Hulk rather than the Holku we know from Planet Hulk and WWHulk.

Or are we talking Skaar?
 
Banner was depowered and couldn't turn into Hulk for a while but mentored Skaar. That's when I dropped the Red Hulk crap. Just boring stories. I suppose for pure mindless action Hulk Vs Dracula could be good.
 
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