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TOS callbacks?

It's not the same. The WoK one might as well just be a screen he's looking at. The TOS one... well, we still don't know what he was looking at down there:lol:.
 
Here's something a bit more involved than other suggestions: I'd like to see Kirk evolve more into the Kirk we're familiar with, which means the character needs to lose the sarcastic smartass persona and start to embrace that oh-so-Kirkian dead seriousness, verging on the corny.

This is easy enough to explain away in the current timeline if the smartass persona was always a defense mechanism that you'd expect in a young and callow person. Once he starts to grow up, he'll develop the self-confidence to let the defenses fall away. There was always a weirdly vulnerable aspect to Shatner's Kirk - he just put himself way out there, without worrying about consequences - it gave him the aura of a truly courageous person, in a way you rarely see in either fiction or real life. He's certainly physically courageous, but to add emotional courage to the mix elevates him to another level.

People usually go through life swaddled in personal defenses, but not our Jim Kirk. That high-wire act of his was always a big part of the character's appeal (and helped set him off from Spock, who of course is Mr. Personal Defenses.)

Just to clarify, I don't mean that Kirk should lose his sense of humor. Smartass-ness is not the same thing. I want him to lose the type of cowardice that stems from immaturity.
 
^Shocking as it may sound, that's precisely why I liked Pine's performance. Huge TOS fan, and he never made me feel that he wasn't the young immature Kirk.
 
Some classic quotes like he's dead jim phasers on stun yer canna change the laws of phisics all the above and don't forget more bones and Spock arguments there the best and kirk getting the girl this time.!!!
 
Spock stroking a black cat, who at the end of the movie briefly turns into a woman.
 
^Shocking as it may sound, that's precisely why I liked Pine's performance. Huge TOS fan, and he never made me feel that he wasn't the young immature Kirk.

It was one way of showing immaturity. His original backstory, as the stack of books with legs, is another. But if they're starting at Point A, the next movie needs to move to Point B.
 
^Shocking as it may sound, that's precisely why I liked Pine's performance. Huge TOS fan, and he never made me feel that he wasn't the young immature Kirk.

It was one way of showing immaturity. His original backstory, as the stack of books with legs, is another. But if they're starting at Point A, the next movie needs to move to Point B.
His original "backstory" amounts to a five word description. That description doesn't preclude anything we saw in the film.
I hope we get to meet all those people Kirk knew when he was a student at the academy.. General Korrd, Captain Garth, Instructor John Gil, etc..
 
I hope we get to meet all those people Kirk knew when he was a student at the academy.. General Korrd, Captain Garth, Instructor John Gil, etc..

Wouldn't those experiences be vastly different since he went to school four years later than in the prime timeline?

Though Garth and Korrd may remain unchanged since they were both required reading at the Academy.
 
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I hope we get to meet all those people Kirk knew when he was a student at the academy.. General Korrd, Captain Garth, Instructor John Gil, etc..

Wouldn't those experiences be vastly different since he went to school four years later than in the prime timeline.

Though Garth and Korrd may remain unchanged since they were both required reading at the Academy?
My guess is that his whole backstory is up for grabs now, but in terms of "TOS Callbacks," this would be cool to see..
Of course the whole idea of "Callbacks" is pretty silly. While some fans would squee like a little girl, others would likely groan and bitch over the same stuff.. :mallory:
 
While some fans would squee like a little girl, others would likely groan and bitch over the same stuff.. :mallory:

Like pretty much everything else in entertainment, it would come down to the execution.
 
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