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Another Voyager 1st-time watch thread

There's an episode I'm longing to see. I hope that it, turns out to be...

"Someone to Watch Over Me"

I had a smile on my face the entire time this episode was on--I just loved it. Mercifully little technobabble, no contrived battle scenes, and no good vs. evil strawman moralizing. In the late 1990s, I think this was just about as good as Trek got.

It starts with Seven semi-stalking Paris and Torres, and Torres taking exception. This sparks a lively conversation between my wife and me about how, yes, if you were living with the same 150 people for five years, they probably would know your business. I loved Seven's barb about everyone on deck whatever knowing when they had intimate relations.

Then Scott Thompson shows up as an ambassador who Neelix is supposed to babysit, only he wants to walk on the wild side...which on Voyager means eating a lot, getting drunk, and going to the holodeck.

They dug the Chez Sandrines set out of storage, and certainly got their money's worth--I think about half the show takes place there. Curiously, I don't think there was a single scene on the bridge. Honestly, I don't miss it.

So basically the episode is the Doctor teaching Seven about romance, and along the way he develops an infatuation for his pupil. And that this is such a good episode is really a testament to the acting ability of Robert Picardo and Jeri Ryan. They both absolutely nailed this one. And they both have lovely singing voices, which we fortunately get to hear quite a bit of.

(Did anyone else see Scott Bakula on Raw Nerve? I now understand why he thought he'd be getting to sing on Enterprise.)

The Doctor's slide show is awesome, as is the constant reference to discretely number lessons (Lesson 23: Toast of the Town, or something like that was one).

Scott Thompson (I never bothered to learn the character's name--he was just Scott Thompson to me) was pretty good, too, and he gave Neelix someone to play off of. Neelix is actually a pretty good straight man when he's paired with someone who's goofier (or drunker) than he is.

Harry did a pretty good job of masking his disappointment when he learned he wasn't on Seven's list. I wonder if "The Disease" had anything to do with that?

The scene where Seven approaches Lt. Chapman in the Jefferies tube was great comedy, as was their date. Brilliant how it ended with Chapman in Sickbay.

By the way, they did such a good job of setting up the Paris/Doctor bet that it wasn't until Seven learned about it at the party that I realized this was basically the same plot we've seen in a few teen movies.

There's a consistently high level of banter throughout the episode, really making it a joy to watch. Robert Duncan McNeill did a fantastic job directing, too; I see he also directed "Twilight," another one of my favorites that is also fundamentally a love story. Interesting.

There's really no limit to the great things I can say about this episode. Just phenomenal, and my favorite in quite a while.
 
I always thought it would have been far more jarring and interesting if we had gotten to know some of the other crew members before they were killed. I also think it would have been far more realistic for the Maquis crew members (many of which were hired guns) to stay dressed as Maquis-- there is practically no conflict there for two sides that largely don't care for each other. I agree that it felt like a rather contrived way to quickly get the crew "lost" and then throw in some conflict resolution and start up the "alien of the week" theme.

Now, having said that, I have a soft spot for Voyager. Some good character development, LOVE the Doctor-- but I do have to say retrospectively a lot of the writers/producer's decisions just make me sad for the potential they had.
 
Fav lines? for "Someone to watch, over me"

At the party:

Tomin: I want to meet her."
Neelix: Take a number!"

TOMIN: Hey, why don't we go back to my quarters? I've studied human mating rituals.
SEVEN: Remove your hand or I will remove your arm.

And in sickbay

TOMIN: Seven of mine....

As for the "Juggernaut" (The ep where people DID die)... I liked how we continue to see the effects of season 5's depression weigh on B'Elanna AND see her work her way through it with the help of her "counselors". Tuvok in the room actually counseling, Chakotay and Neelix on the mission, and EVEN Mama Janeway, back home pulling the strings.
 
I always thought it would have been far more jarring and interesting if we had gotten to know some of the other crew members before they were killed. I also think it would have been far more realistic for the Maquis crew members (many of which were hired guns) to stay dressed as Maquis-- there is practically no conflict there for two sides that largely don't care for each other. I agree that it felt like a rather contrived way to quickly get the crew "lost" and then throw in some conflict resolution and start up the "alien of the week" theme.

Now, having said that, I have a soft spot for Voyager. Some good character development, LOVE the Doctor-- but I do have to say retrospectively a lot of the writers/producer's decisions just make me sad for the potential they had.

...wait, who died in this episode? Maquis conflict? Lost? I have a feeling this poster dialed the wrong number. :lol:

I like this one for the same reason I like "The Cloud." Lots of great dialogue, like you guys mentioned, plus it's just a nice little "slice of life" piece. Space battles are wonderful and cool, but I like this stuff, too.

I am a bit curious how you'll feel about the next episode coming up. :)
 
All right, then.

Does "T.D" stand for "True (Janeway) Devotee?" Is that what the Truth Path Compound is about?
 
No, but that's awesome!

Touchdown Possum, or some form thereof, is my username every where else on the internet except here, where I signed up with a different one for reasons I cannot recall. I started using it ages ago after I saw this on a funny moments in sports program:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj4Xtsgm1_0

The True Path Compound is a running joke in the "How is Janeway Sexy" thread. Be careful if you pop in there tonight, though, 'cause Froot and I are discussing the next ep you'll be watching. (OK, she's discussing, I'm ranting.;))
 
No, but that's awesome!

Touchdown Possum, or some form thereof, is my username every where else on the internet except here, where I signed up with a different one for reasons I cannot recall. I started using it ages ago after I saw this on a funny moments in sports program:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj4Xtsgm1_0

OH MY BISCUITS that's so cute! But... that mean old lady, hitting the poor possum like that :klingon: :klingon: That possum was a hero. I always wondered where your name came from!

freaking OSU >< Ducks all the way, baby...
 
I've been lurking and very occasionally posting in there...but I'll stay out until I've seen the next ep. Thanks for the heads-up.
 
^^^ Agreed. I always liked episodes with Seven and the Doc.

They do have great chemistry. Seven and Tuvok scenes are usually fun to watch as well. I like how Seven relates to both the Doctor and Tuvok on a logical level. It's ironic how the Doctor, who himself had to improve his interpersonal communication, is the one teaching Seven now.
 
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