Please help against animal cruelty

[Infern0]

A football player kicked an owl that landed on a field injured, and the owl died.

please join this protest group on facebook, there are details of how to complain to fifa on there

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Take-...-Murderer-Of-Owls-Del-Pereira/188597264511773

 

[Pingfah]

Well, it wasn't a very sensible or nice thing to do, but it looks like the owl was done for before the guy kicked it.

 

[Roger Wilco]

What exactly do you want FIFA to do? They have absolutely no juristdiction whatsoever to punish anybody in any way for something like that. At most the Columbian football league could do something, but even that's probably questionable.

eta: also, they guy seems to be sincerely remorseful, so what more do you want?

 

[Infern0]

What exactly do you want FIFA to do? They have absolutely no juristdiction whatsoever to punish anybody in any way for something like that. At most the Columbian football league could do something, but even that's probably questionable.

eta: also, they guy seems to be sincerely remorseful, so what more do you want?

Fifa can punish him for bringing the game into direpute.

I don't care that he's sorry, it's not enough to simply say sorry for such a scumbag action.

 

[Roger Wilco]

No FIFA has no jurisdiction over individual players competing in club competitions. At least I have never heard of such a thing and I follow the sport fairly closely. Probably the only one who can punish him is his own club, maybe the Columbian football federation.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

What exactly do you want FIFA to do? They have absolutely no juristdiction whatsoever to punish anybody in any way for something like that.

No FIFA has no jurisdiction over individual players competing in club competitions.

Leaving aside the whole owl situation for a moment, these websites do seem to suggest that FIFA can fine or suspend individual players rather than solely punish entire clubs for the misconduct of their players:

http://williampennmanship.blogspot.com/2010/07/world-cup-fifa-to-fine-player-for.html

http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=384693

http://www.cansoc.org/showthread.php?32008-Fines-for-Chilean-player-and-team-from-FIFA

It may be a fairly rare thing for them to do, but they would seem to either come across as either remarkably impotent or heavy-handed as a regulatory body if they couldn't punish individual players on occasion, and instead were forced to either leave it up to the clubs to handle or punish the entire club for the misbehavior of one player.

 

[Amaris]

It appears the owl was actually a beloved good luck mascot of the home team's stadium in which Moreno was playing (link).

COLOMBIAN soccer player Luis Moreno was suspended for two games and fined $1,070,200 pesos (US$560) today for kicking an opposing team's mascot owl, which later died, Yahoo! Sport reported.

The bird landed on the field with an apparent broken wing during Sunday's game between Barranquilla's Atletico Junior and visiting Deportivo Pereira.
Deportivo's Panamanian striker Luis Moreno kicked the owl off the field, provoking a furious reaction from the Baranquilla crowd, who considered the bird, which lived in the stadium roof, to be a good luck charm.
Veterinarians treating the bird said it died of respiratory arrest early Tuesday, most likely brought on by the stress of being handled excessively following the incident.
"This committee has become aware through the media that Luis Moreno committed an act of cruelty against an animal during the Atletico Junior-Pereira match," said the league's disciplinary commission in a statement, while handing down the punishment.

 

[Roger Wilco]

Leaving aside the whole owl situation for a moment, these websites do seem to suggest that FIFA can fine or suspend individual players rather than solely punish entire clubs for the misconduct of their players:

http://williampennmanship.blogspot.com/2010/07/world-cup-fifa-to-fine-player-for.html

http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=384693

http://www.cansoc.org/showthread.php?32008-Fines-for-Chilean-player-and-team-from-FIFA

It may be a fairly rare thing for them to do, but they would seem to either come across as either remarkably impotent or heavy-handed as a regulatory body if they couldn't punish individual players on occasion, and instead were forced to either leave it up to the clubs to handle or punish the entire club for the misbehavior of one player.

Those examples are different, they regard incidents that happened at international games between national teams. That's a whole different thing from club competitions which are generally organised by different sports bodies, specifically the continental football federations and national football federations. There's some relation between them and FIFA of course but their responsibilities are seperated sharply as far as I know.

 

[FordSVT]

This is a sad little story, and he should be punished, but I think there are far more egregious abuses of animal rights you could spend your time fighting against than one isolated indecent during a football game. It's not systematic abuse, the guy has no history of abusing animals, what exactly are you fighting for in this case?

"People Against Kicking Owls During Football Games" doesn't roll off the tongue.

 

[JarodRussell]

I'd support you if you were fighting cruelty against children or something. There are really more important things in the world

 

[Holdfast]

Best Sepp Blatter Impression: "In the 70s and 80s, fans used to regularly fight against each other. Moving onto owls is a mark of the significant progress we have made in the modern beautiful game."

 

[Amaris]

I'd support you if you were fighting cruelty against children or something. There are really more important things in the world

Attacking a defenseless and wounded animal for absolutely no reason is cruelty, and it's wrong. How people treat such animals is a sign of our group conscience, our ethics. What this man did was wrong, and it may not have been a child, but it was still completely unwarranted and cruel.

 

[RJDiogenes]

Well, it wasn't a very sensible or nice thing to do, but it looks like the owl was done for before the guy kicked it.

I don't think the fact that the animal was injured is really a mitigating circumstance; the opposite, if anything.

I hope the guy is truly remorseful and intends to make amends somehow, but I've added my voice to the Facebook page. There can't be too many protests to this sort of behavior.

 

[Scout101]

Maybe like George in that episode of Seinfeld, he assumed that the bird would have moved when he went to do that?

"We have a DEAL with the pigeons!"

 

[SmoothieX]

If you really feel strongly about animal welfare, donate to charity or volunteer at a humane society, not join some whiny Facefuck page.

 

[Pingfah]

Well, it wasn't a very sensible or nice thing to do, but it looks like the owl was done for before the guy kicked it.

I don't think the fact that the animal was injured is really a mitigating circumstance; the opposite, if anything.

Sure, it was definitely the wrong thing to do, but i'd characterise it as great thoughtlessness, rather than the kind of malicious cruelty for its own sake that would make me seriously question a person's character.

But that facebook campaign is stirring up excessive rhetoric, some of the comments make me worry far more for the people making them than for that footballer. And completely destroying the guy's career as some people seem bent on doing seems somewhat over the top.

 

[Kirk's_Tights]

I'd support you if you were fighting cruelty against children or something. There are really more important things in the world

Wow, just wow.

I don't care that he apparently had no history of animal abuse, he still made a decision that he did not have to make. Would you be saying the same thing if someone with no history of child abuse kicked some kid? I highly doubt you would, you'd be all over that guy calling him every name in the book.

 

[RJDiogenes]

Well, it wasn't a very sensible or nice thing to do, but it looks like the owl was done for before the guy kicked it.

I don't think the fact that the animal was injured is really a mitigating circumstance; the opposite, if anything.

Sure, it was definitely the wrong thing to do, but i'd characterise it as great thoughtlessness, rather than the kind of malicious cruelty for its own sake that would make me seriously question a person's character.

But that facebook campaign is stirring up excessive rhetoric, some of the comments make me worry far more for the people making them than for that footballer. And completely destroying the guy's career as some people seem bent on doing seems somewhat over the top.

I know. The people who responded to my hope that he'll be remorseful were not very forgiving.