I will not take your bait. You have internet skills to look it up, but since you are a fan, I am certain you will not.
Conversely, can you give me a link to where he says he loves the USA?
Julian Assange arrested
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Conversely, can you give me a link to where he says he loves the USA?
I'm watching NASCAR... DO IT YOURSELF! I am a proud American who would have Julian Assange shot for acts of espionage against the United States of America. Now that you know my opinion, you are free to rage against me now. That seems to be the majority opinion in this thread: down with America and hooray for Assange.
I don't think he has ever said he loves the USA, but I don't think he has ever said he hates the USA either. It isn't an either/or situation.
You have said that he has he has publicly stated his hatred of the United States of America. As far as I know he has never made such a statement. I have just spent half an hour looking for such a statement and cannot find it. I can find many statements by others declaring that Julian Assange hates the USA but I can find no direct quote from Julian Assange stating that he does.
One would think that if Julian Assange had actually said such a thing it would be easy to find it.
You have said that he has he has publicly stated his hatred of the United States of America. As far as I know he has never made such a statement. I have just spent half an hour looking for such a statement and cannot find it. I can find many statements by others declaring that Julian Assange hates the USA but I can find no direct quote from Julian Assange stating that he does.
One would think that if Julian Assange had actually said such a thing it would be easy to find it.
OK sorry, I though you were being serious for a moment.
Internet memes, serious business.
Here's my short take on why we need whistle blowers.
In dealing with terrorism, people have been giving up their rights to do so. And I feel that there are groups, sinister, nasty groups, some within our own goverment, that make these heinous acts happen so they can take more rights from us.
Government taking more and more power from people is a long, old story. Once you give a government a big lump of power, they are going to want more. And if people think it can not/will not happen here, because it's America, will show just how historically ignorant Americans are.
Either you protect the lies, or you bust out the truth that has been systematically withheld from us.
In dealing with terrorism, people have been giving up their rights to do so. And I feel that there are groups, sinister, nasty groups, some within our own goverment, that make these heinous acts happen so they can take more rights from us.
Government taking more and more power from people is a long, old story. Once you give a government a big lump of power, they are going to want more. And if people think it can not/will not happen here, because it's America, will show just how historically ignorant Americans are.
Either you protect the lies, or you bust out the truth that has been systematically withheld from us.
It's the equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and going "la la la" because someone has a different view of how things are from you.
I hate the American war machine and fully support any transparency that might wake people up to the idea that there is more to it than "fighting to protect our freedom". It is quite possible to hate things about the workings of a government and not hate a country or the people in it including those with different ideas than yours.
His condom broke. He didn't rape anybody.
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Translation: If Assange is unpleasant, or, even more horribly, smells bad, plainly Wikileaks are a Bad Thing.
The Independent's columnist may want to sell this, but it is a fallacy (the genetic fallacy, if you care to know.)
No one with any sense believes the prosecution is legitimate. Even the people making the charges tacitly concede it was consensual sex! (They are alleging consent was withdrawn.) There is no sense in which anything Assange did is what people mean by "rape." There is every reason to suspect political motivations. Everyone who supports these charges, openly or covertly, is doing so to support the counterattack on a source of embarrassment for governments, especially the US government. No leftist, or even decently "liberal" person, honestly supports these charges. This is a good litmus test for sniffing out the frauds, I think.
The Independent's columnist may want to sell this, but it is a fallacy (the genetic fallacy, if you care to know.)
No one with any sense believes the prosecution is legitimate. Even the people making the charges tacitly concede it was consensual sex! (They are alleging consent was withdrawn.) There is no sense in which anything Assange did is what people mean by "rape." There is every reason to suspect political motivations. Everyone who supports these charges, openly or covertly, is doing so to support the counterattack on a source of embarrassment for governments, especially the US government. No leftist, or even decently "liberal" person, honestly supports these charges. This is a good litmus test for sniffing out the frauds, I think.
I wonder what dirt "someone" has on the women who made the allegations. I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't doing what they felt they had to in order to save themselves.
That doesn't sit well with the fact that the women making the allegations live in Sweden, which I would have thought is highly regarded for protecting human rights, and isn't a poodle of the US.
There was a Panorama documentary on BBC1 on Assange last night, and he did come across as unpleasant as some are saying. Of course, the BBC would be seen by some as an arm of the UK government (they wish,
) and thereby in thrall to the US. I still think it was right to publish the leaks, but I think the line should have been drawn at naming people if that would put their lives in danger.
I think that Julian Assange is a bit of a dick. I don't think I would like him all that much if I personally knew him.
However I am a bit suspicious of the women who have accused him as they continued to see him after the alleged incidents despite the fact that they could have easily avoided him. Also they didn't go to the police until after they 'compared notes' with each other. It seems to me that they weren't that upset over what had happened until they found out about each other.
And WikiLeaks is still mainly a force for good even if its founder is a bit of a dick.
However I am a bit suspicious of the women who have accused him as they continued to see him after the alleged incidents despite the fact that they could have easily avoided him. Also they didn't go to the police until after they 'compared notes' with each other. It seems to me that they weren't that upset over what had happened until they found out about each other.
And WikiLeaks is still mainly a force for good even if its founder is a bit of a dick.
Everyone is the US's poodle, or if not the US is trying to poodle them up.
And yes, I'm sure Assange is a dick, even if he didn't start out that way notoriety and power and money probably turned him into one.
I agree with Wikileaks, but I also think Assange is smelly and egomaniacal.
