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"Your a droid ,and I'm annoyed"

Yeah, I fail to see how she "richly deserved it", considering that she was trying to help him.
 
And who's idea was it to have Piscopo represent a great comedian of the past? The guy barely ever raised me a chuckle.

I've read that the script was written with Robin Williams in mind, but they couldn't get him for the shoot due to a scheduling conflict.

I think that's one of the more interesting TNG what-if scenarios. Data and Robin Williams playing off each other, could have been funny.
 
Yeah, the "joke" Guinan tells isn't funny by any stretch of the imagination. And while the "jokes" Data tells later on might be "funny" his audience correctly points out that his delivery isn't right. I mean, just tell the jokes Data! Instead he has the fake cigar and he's done the over-done classic "lame comic" shtick with the constantly moving arms, the Charlie Chaplin-esque voice and doing a verbal rim-shot. That'd make any joke unfunny.
 
I know people hate the whole "We're Starfleet, we don't lie" line from Justice, but I actually thought this Droid line might have been the worst line in the series. I guess the reason why was in the context that it was supposed to be funny, but ended up really lame instead.
 
Weird.

If you google "Will Joe Piscopo's star ever stop rising?" there's a picture of the USS Kelvin on page 4.

It's like the Twlight Zone. :guffaw:
 
Yeah, the "joke" Guinan tells isn't funny by any stretch of the imagination. And while the "jokes" Data tells later on might be "funny" his audience correctly points out that his delivery isn't right. I mean, just tell the jokes Data! Instead he has the fake cigar and he's done the over-done classic "lame comic" shtick with the constantly moving arms, the Charlie Chaplin-esque voice and doing a verbal rim-shot. That'd make any joke unfunny.
I guess you might be to young to remember Benny Goodman and Groucho Marx. That's who he's mimicing.
The cigar is Groucho, the hand jestures are Benny.
The voice is both of them
They were both masters of the one line rim-shot jokes and part of who Bugs Bunny is styled after.
All the biggest comedians of yesteryear were huge hits because of this style. From Red Skellington, to Abbott & Costello to Lucy Ball. It was due to their vaudville style acts that gradually became what we know as sitcoms & sketch comedy.
Charlie Chaplin is a star of mostly silent film.
 
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And, amazing, the joke in the original script was even worse:

"Whoa, slow down. Now Data, there's just you and me here and nobody is going to know what we talked about. My job here places me under some obligations, like a vow of secrecy. I can't repeat anything I hear or see. Now the obligation of the patron is to tell the truth, otherwise I'm being placed under a commitment to keep a secret about "nothing." That's not fair. It's called wasted honor. You understand?"

What the hell?

That makes no sense.

I guess you might be to young to remember Benny Goodman and Groucho Marx. That's who he's mimicing.
The cigar is Groucho, the hand jestures are Benny.

Henny Youngman. ;)

Benny Goodman was the swing/big band guy. ;)
 
the best example is Generations, where we're all supposed to laugh at Riker's mean-spirited prank on Worf, but we're supposed to cringe when Dr. Crusher, who RICHLY DESERVED it, gets pushed in the water by Data.

Humor is subjective, so please don't say it like it's a fact. ;)
I for one did like the prank on Worf, and cringed at the other one.


um, no, I'm not going to preface every post I make on this message board that expresses an opinion with "this is my opinion."


I'm going to assume folks have enough intelligence to figure it out.
 
Yeah, I fail to see how she "richly deserved it", considering that she was trying to help him.



did you see the movie? She was laughing at Worf for being the victim of a prank and being made to fall in the water, when he'd just pulled off an incredible feat.


She said the prank was "all in good fun." So Data showed her to be a hypocrite when she got pissed off for being dumped into the water.
 
Yeah, I fail to see how she "richly deserved it", considering that she was trying to help him.



did you see the movie? She was laughing at Worf for being the victim of a prank and being made to fall in the water, when he'd just pulled off an incredible feat.


She said the prank was "all in good fun." So Data showed her to be a hypocrite when she got pissed off for being dumped into the water.

One could say Riker pulled that prank on Worf as revenge for taking Troi (however briefly) off the market and away from him. :rolleyes:
 
She was explaining to Data that it was all in fun, that hazing is part of the ritual. Worf was not a "victim" of anything. To which he responded by physically assaulting her.

har-dee-har
 
um, so you're not a "victim" if the other person can just say "it's just hazing!" as a defense? Have you seen stories on hazing before and how it can get sometimes?


I thought the prank was mean-spirited,and it was funny when Dr. Crusher was shown to be a hypocrite, but we've both expressed our views, we'll have to agree to disagree.
 
You seriously think Worf had never been to one of these rituals before? That they dress up in period costumes and walk the plank just for the fun of it, expecting to stay dry? Really.
 
You seriously think Worf had never been to one of these rituals before? That they dress up in period costumes and walk the plank just for the fun of it, expecting to stay dry? Really.

sigh. Others involved in this ritual fell in the water because they failed to get the rank badge from above them. Worf SUCCEEDED in grabbing the badge without falling in the water. Basically he beat the game. Then riker decides to drop him in the water ANYWAY just for a prank. That's different.
 
You seriously think Worf had never been to one of these rituals before? That they dress up in period costumes and walk the plank just for the fun of it, expecting to stay dry? Really.

sigh. Others involved in this ritual fell in the water because they failed to get the rank badge from above them. Worf SUCCEEDED in grabbing the badge without falling in the water. Basically he beat the game. Then riker decides to drop him in the water ANYWAY just for a prank. That's different.

I agree that it was nasty of Riker to have Worf fall in the water when Worf, as you say, had been the first to actually grab the hat and land back safe and dry on the plank. Data pushing Beverly into the water shouldn't be as funny, but I think it is only because I don't like Beverly's character. ;)
 
I found Data's "guy walks into the doctor's office," joke pretty funny.

Strange, Guinan tells a horrible joke and insists it was funny and suggested that there was something wrong with Data. Data WAS right.; the joke was not funny.
 
I actually thought both Riker's removal of the plank, and Data's shoving of Crusher into the water, were funny and never understood why people think either is inappropriate or mean-spirited.
 
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