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Children of Men

I think a full explanation for the infertility event would make the movie far worse. Not knowing make it far more ominous.
 
I think a full explanation for the infertility event would make the movie far worse. Not knowing make it far more ominous.


yeah the fact no one knew what it was made the movie better. Some thought it was "god", didn't some think it was some government and it spread to far?

If they went "It was the flu" that would be lame. Plus the date doesn't match, Clive Owen's sun died from flu when he was a few/ several years old, and I think people stopped having kids before that. Maybe I'm remembering it wrong.
 
^^^

I would need to re-watch the movie myself, but the Wikipedia article on Children of Men states that Clive Owen's son died during the flu pandemic of 2008. Baby Diego was 18 years old, this means that he was born in 2009 (and probably conceived in 2008)? Either there's connection between the pandemic and the infertility or its a pretty strange coincidence.

But I guess there's not much point in discssing this, since the whole movie was built on the premise that the definite cause for the infertility remains undiscovered.
 
I didn't like it much either, apart from the camera work. Mainly I didn't buy into the premise. Infertility is an easy nut to crack. Society wouldn't collapse that quickly or completely. Basically the reasons Myasishchev said upthread.

Since I didn't buy into the premise I couldn't empathize with the characters properly. Situations that mere meant to come across as gritty and realistic came off as cartoony.
 
Cloning is fairly well recognized as technology without long range efficacy. Meaning, cloning could extend the life span of the human race maybe 10 or 20 more generations but, due to the problems of making copies of copies of copies and the inevitable and inescapable loss of information that occurs, it would be as futile an effort as anything else in the long run.

According to the movie Multiplicity, the clones become increasingly idiotic.

crookeddy said:
But I just don't buy the world going to shit in the way it did.

Maybe the world was going to shit anyway.
 
I loved this movie. I saw it in theater just because the director of HP3 made it, so my expectations weren't huge. We were blown away! The gritty realistic war like feel. The amazing camera shots.

My favorite moment is when the sight of a living crying baby literally stops an entire army dead in its tracks.
 
^ Book... good? I started a thread about how horrible it is. :lol:

It's a beautiful underrated movie. Just perfectly filmed. It's simply stunning how well the story comes together considering the book is a piece of shit that I wanted to burn in a fire.

To each his own, but I liked the book. It had its farfetched moments, and PD James is not an SF writer so you just sort of had to go with the general premise (much as you do in the movie), but I thought it's exploration of themes was quite good and the characters were really a lot better developed than they were in the film.
 
^ Book... good? I started a thread about how horrible it is. :lol:

It's a beautiful underrated movie. Just perfectly filmed. It's simply stunning how well the story comes together considering the book is a piece of shit that I wanted to burn in a fire.

To each his own, but I liked the book. It had its farfetched moments, and PD James is not an SF writer so you just sort of had to go with the general premise (much as you do in the movie), but I thought it's exploration of themes was quite good and the characters were really a lot better developed than they were in the film.

The main character in the book had a crush on his cousin...

I'd argue that P.D. James isn't a writer, it's not the fact it's science fiction, it's just the part it was horribly written. :lol:

I'm glad someone liked the book, without you the awesome movie would have never have been made.
 
The main character in the book had a crush on his cousin...

Main characters with incestuous crushes may be creepy but that doesn't mean they're poorly written.

from ye olde Wikipedia:

"Children of Men received very positive reviews from many critics such as Caryn James of The New York Times, who called it "wonderfully rich" and "a trenchant analysis of politics and power that speaks urgently"."

I'd argue that P.D. James isn't a writer

She's had a hell of career (40 years of book sales and quite a few awards) for someone who's not a writer. I'm not a massive fan or anything, but just sayin'...
 
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