At least Engineering didn't look like a fuckin' brewery.
The Motion Picture - I remembered it differently...
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At least Engineering didn't look like a fuckin' brewery.
At least Engineering didn't look like a fuckin' brewery.
I know, I could not believe the brewery engineering in ST XI.
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I know, I could not believe the brewery engineering in ST XI.
There were certain visual aspects to the Abrams-verse that I could appreciate, but over all, I felt like I had landed in an alternate universe BEFORE Nero and the Narada arrived.
And Delta-Vega being in the Vulcan system?
What's that all about?
I know, I could not believe the brewery engineering in ST XI.
There were certain visual aspects to the Abrams-verse that I could appreciate, but over all, I felt like I had landed in an alternate universe BEFORE Nero and the Narada arrived.
And Delta-Vega being in the Vulcan system?
I know. For me the STXI JJ Enterprise 1701 did not look right. He should have kept the design established in TMP.
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Well, I understand that the times are different and modern movie-going audiences demand a different type of product. And as I said, JJ-Trek wasn't all bad... But it just really didn't feel like TOS to me.
I can only hope that the 2012 sequel will lean a bit more towards the source material and deliver a story that makes me feel like I'm really watching Kirk & Spock.
Well, I understand that the times are different and modern movie-going audiences demand a different type of product. And as I said, JJ-Trek wasn't all bad... But it just really didn't feel like TOS to me.
I can only hope that the 2012 sequel will lean a bit more towards the source material and deliver a story that makes me feel like I'm really watching Kirk & Spock.
Yes, we will have to hope that ST XII 2012 gets the script right. As I said, my biggest problem with STXI 2009 was the look of the exterior of the 1701 and as you stated the brewery engineering.
It is hard for JJ to get us to like his 1701, after we experienced the far superior looking 1701 flyover in TMP.
Great to see so much love for the movie.
I'd really love to see it in high definition. Judging from the screenshots at TrekCore it surely is a big improvement over the other prints. One can only hope they're gonna give us the Director's Edition on BD someday. Maybe for the 50th anniversary? O_o
I'd really love to see it in high definition. Judging from the screenshots at TrekCore it surely is a big improvement over the other prints. One can only hope they're gonna give us the Director's Edition on BD someday. Maybe for the 50th anniversary? O_o
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Gosh, I'm sorry. Someone delete this, please.
Great to see so much love for the movie.
I really love to see it in high definition. Judging from the screenshots at TrekCore it surely is a big improvement over the other prints. One can only hope they're gonna give us the Director's Edition on BD someday. Maybe for the 50th anniversary? O_o
Great to see so much love for the movie.
I really love to see it in high definition. Judging from the screenshots at TrekCore it surely is a big improvement over the other prints. One can only hope they're gonna give us the Director's Edition on BD someday. Maybe for the 50th anniversary? O_o
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Same here.
Great to see so much love for the movie.
I really love to see it in high definition. Judging from the screenshots at TrekCore it surely is a big improvement over the other prints. One can only hope they're gonna give us the Director's Edition on BD someday. Maybe for the 50th anniversary? O_o
Great to see so much love for the movie.
I really love to see it in high definition. Judging from the screenshots at TrekCore it surely is a big improvement over the other prints. One can only hope they're gonna give us the Director's Edition on BD someday. Maybe for the 50th anniversary? O_o
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True enough. It was very much Star Trek writ large in the way it deserved.
Well that's essentially what it was.
From what I recall reading somewhere, the CGI FX that were created specifically for the Director's Edition DVD are not of a high enough resolution to transfer to Blu-Ray... Hence the original theatrical version being offered up now. I may be wrong, but i suspect that the only way to see the DE is to own the DVD.
What I'm hoping is that Paramount will just release the version that's out now for individual sale, instead of only being available as part of the 6-pack. Time will tell, I suppose.
Welcome to the BBS, BTW.
Right, that's what I heard. That and something about the company responsible for the FX being bankrupt now.
But I think that doesn't mean anything. They're going to redo it eventually. I bet once they release it individually, it'll have the theatrical as well as director's cut version. For the moment, they just want us to double-dip.
Thank you. Happy to be here. Please take a look at my marathon post.
Honestly, that's how it felt to me. I know the vast majority of people who have viewed the movie believe it to be the same universe we've known, that it only became altered from the point of Nero's intervention. Though there's no actual proof that Nero not only traveled through time but into a parallel universe, but from my perspective, that's exactly what happened.
No, they're not ready to make the investment, and CBS will wait until there is sufficient demand to take the financial risk.
Just as you can choose not to invest in the currently-available Blu-Ray version. If you are willing to wait, you're not double dipping. If you buy something early, you run the risk that a future revamped version may become more compelling.
At the moment, ST boxed sets of episodes on DVD are being clearanced at places like Big Lots. Stores really don't like their shelves cluttered up with dusty, old stock - and eventually all the series of ST will get new releases, in newly revamped boxes, and maybe new content. That's not forcing customers to "double dip"; it's keeping the franchise fresh and interesting so that new customers will still want to buy previously-released material that has otherwise lost its "new" gloss in a competitive market.
Well, if they ever decided to re-re-fix TMP I'd hope they keep the DE edit structurally (flawed as it is), and when they re-replace the VFX they hopefully actually do what the original intent was instead of adding all the fankwank crap they stuck into the DE (the pointless stardate chiron, redesigning San Francisco and the air tram bay into something that doesn't match the original designs, etc., and the foolish idea that the sparkles that make the bridge to V'ger would be animated "on twos" when nothing else in the film is animated on twos).
Therin of Andor: I guess you could put it that way. You're right about the investment part. Sadly, this affects other earlier Trek movies as well.
Now that it's out, and especially because it's on BD, I'm tempted to take a look at the theatrical cut again. When I saw the movie on TV for the first time, it was obviously not the new edit, but I never noticed alot of changes because when I finally git the DVD I hadn't been seeing it for years.
Now that it's out, and especially because it's on BD, I'm tempted to take a look at the theatrical cut again. When I saw the movie on TV for the first time, it was obviously not the new edit, but I never noticed alot of changes because when I finally git the DVD I hadn't been seeing it for years.
Yes, we will have to hope that ST XII 2012 gets the script right. As I said, my biggest problem with STXI 2009 was the look of the exterior of the 1701 and as you stated the brewery engineering.
AMEN!!!!! NuTrek is not a horrible film, but the lack of a beautiful 1701 that we got treated to in TMP, has me spoiled for life! Why they didn't stick with a more rugged original Conny then that monstrosity is beyond me. That and the brewery engineering really was too much. I was hoping it would have gotten destroyed by the black hole and they had to give them a replacement that we all love: the original Conny!!!!
And about TMP: While it is not my fav out of the series, it is the closest to the original TOS series than any other movie. We still get a "thin" Scotty, we get a wonderful new Enterprise, we get the music! we get the "real" Klingons, and we finally get Star trek proper! Of course the uniforms are ugly, as are the silly life support monitors on the belly and the ugly hand phasers and wrist communicators (even thou those actually make sense Vs. the hideious flip top box seen in TWOK). The DE edition with updated sound effects and visuals really make the movie pop! In fact, just talking about it, is making me want to go watch again!!!
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Actually, I quite like the uniforms in TMP. I think they make sense in a way the uniforms in other series do not. They seem comfortable, with clear indications of department and rank. The variety is nice, similar to the modern military with it's varied Class A and B uniforms. Also, befitting the fact that Starfleet is not a strictly military organization, the uniforms don't have a particularly military bearing. As for the life support monitor, this also has never bothered me. Some sort of device to enable med staff to check on the wellbeing of a member of the crew doesn't seem like such a bad idea to me. And I have always loved the phasers in TMP (and likewise, in TWOK). I think the thing I like about TMP in general is that the design of everything seems to come from a sense of utility. I mean, look at the phasers in TSFS, for example. I enjoy the retro throwback style, the homage to the original series, but what is the real point of making a phaser with such art-decoish design? The world established in TMP seems like a real world, a feeling that is lacking in some of the later installments of the movies and TV shows.
And I do agree with you that the DE is fantastic, the music is excellent, and the Enterprise looks superb!
I rather like them too (although apparently they were not comfortable at all). I like the variety up to a point but it always seemed to me that it was a bit too random. All uniforms should have had both collar and epaulet rank indicators (except the short-sleeved versions obviously) and there should be some logic to who wears the beige, grey, brown, and white uniforms of whatever style.
My ideal would be the DE with some of the character moments from the longer TV extended version added back in.
Actually, it's fairly well explained in several places, including Susan Sackett's "Starlog" columns, a memo in her "The Making of ST:TMP", and an art section in the back of one of the post-TMP Marvel Comics.
Like TOS, sleeve stripes indicated rank, although a broken braid means ensign, to distinguish from enlisted crewman (TOS gave them both no-stripe). The casual uniforms had epaulettes (jumpsuits, T-shirts)
There was. Officers could choose between beige or grey/blue, depending on personal preference and/or skin colouration. Enlisted crew wore brown. Specialists (eg. medics, engineers) wore white. Station staff wore green.
