Interesting NYT op-ed piece on this crazy weather
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I love pointing to facts like the ones in the op-ed whenever some idiot says to me, "Uh, it's snowing so what happened to that global warming? Liberal conspiracy!"
Well, let me think.
North Carolina got snow a month before we did, and I live in the snow belt of Central NY.
Florida is facing a another deep freeze.
The East Coast just got slammed.
The West Coast just got slammed.
The Northwest just got slammed.
All by the same storm.
I watched something once that was trying to prove that humans are the only reason for global warming this time. They went "100,000 years ago the water was up there" and pointed to a cliff 30 feet above their head. "This is what will happen again unless we do something!"
Umm.... the idiot just proved that 100,000 years ago there was global warming / global climate change. Maybe it was the humans' fault then too!
We aren't helping, but we aren't the cause for global warming.
All by the same storm.
I watched something once that was trying to prove that humans are the only reason for global warming this time. They went "100,000 years ago the water was up there" and pointed to a cliff 30 feet above their head. "This is what will happen again unless we do something!"
Umm.... the idiot just proved that 100,000 years ago there was global warming / global climate change. Maybe it was the humans' fault then too!
We aren't helping, but we aren't the cause for global warming.
No one has ever denied that the Earth's climate changes naturally over long periods of time.
The concern is that humans are causing it to change unnaturally quickly.
A lot of people don't seem to understand the difference between climate and weather. Disrupting a global system causes specific local changes that are above or below the overall average.
Really?! Because I have watched a lot of programs, and listened to a lot of bullshit, and they almost NEVER bring up the fact it is natural, it's almost always "It's 100% humans fault for this mess right now", when it isn't anywhere close to 100% our fault.
Trust me, anyone who studies climate science is aware of the Earth's natural cycles. It's one of the first things you talk about when taking a course on climatology. No one who's actually working on this stuff as a scientific discipline would be so blind as to ignore the climate records.
I've never heard anyone say humans are 100% responsible for it and I've read a bit about climate change.
Given that one has to register to see the article it is mostly useless to me.
I didn't have to.
Here's a round-up of the responses to that article:
http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/12/27/wintry-weather-and-global-warming/?partner=rss&emc=rss
http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/12/27/wintry-weather-and-global-warming/?partner=rss&emc=rss
Your living in New York might have something to do that (or at some point you've already registered) clicking on that link, as does most articles from the NYT causes me to, brings me to a log-in screen.
I didn't have a login screen and here I am in Texas posting from my phone.
I don't even live in the United States, and I'm not hitting a paywall either.
It takes me straight to the story. No log in.
It's not actually a paywall, just free registration. I get that on some NYTimes articles, but it seems oddly inconsistent. I could read the article in the OP a few days ago, but today it asked me to log in when I clicked on it again.
On a related topic, I found this blog post talking about the problem of local winter weather and the perception of climate change which I thought was interesting: http://www.desmogblog.com/warming-and-winter-storming
Same here. Anyways it's rather warm here, but I feel sorry for those folks in Central Queensland who have suffered with record floods. It is a crazy world.
