Avengers: EMH 1.1/1.2 "Breakout" pts 1&2
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The original Avengers comic dropped Hulk and added Captain America within its first four issues, but then it didn't make any further cast changes for another 12 issues. Black Panther didn't join until issue 52. Ms. Marvel didn't begin showing up in the book until fifteen years after it began.
In contrast, so far this show has added a new team member essentially every other episode. If we count the "prequel" episodes as 1-5, then the team was formed in episode 7, Cap joined in episode 9, Black Panther in episode 11, and Hawkeye (and a returning Hulk) in episode 13. "459" was episode 15, and though nobody actually joined the team, we were introduced to Carol Danvers, who probably will join very soon, and to Mar-Vell, who's bound to be a recurring character.
i dunno, i guess they have to make up for the fact that for awhile the team was just Cap's 'Kooky Quartet' and i doubt the show will slim the cast down to just four characters. i do see what you are saying though. too many characters at once could easily turn into a bad thing. but at this point, i think its being handled fairly well.
I wouldn't mine them doing a Shout out episode where Cap and Hawkeye team up with the Scarlett Witch and Quicksilver,if they can use the Mutants that is.
You know I brought it up before but dose anyone know who they can use?I mean if The Super Hero Squad can use everyone(short of Spider-Man)why can't the Avengers EMH?,And is Spidey off limits too?
The Producer of the show said it's basically set in the same animated Universe as Wolverine and The X-Men so I guess if they can use them it would this version of the X-men,I also think it would be cool if they could set the next Spider-Man series and all future Marvel animated Series in the same Universe.
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There have been several veiled X-Men nods, like the reference to the MRD in one of the prequel episodes, and a cabbie in "Masters of Evil" reading a newspaper with the headline, "SECRET SCHOOL FOR MUTANTS?" And Reed Richards has been name-dropped as well, along with veiled references to Doctor Doom in the pilot.
I don't know if there have been any Spidey-related Easter eggs. I didn't catch whether the paper the cabbie was reading was the Bugle or not.
I don't know if there have been any Spidey-related Easter eggs. I didn't catch whether the paper the cabbie was reading was the Bugle or not.
"Baxter tenant?" Is that the FF's neighbor who's always complaining? (I keep forgetting her name, but she was a major character in the FF animated series from a few years back.)
i can't remember her name either, but i believe that's who its supposed to be.
I find the retcon factor interestingly done here, as the title of the Kree/Captain Mar-Vell Avengers EMT episode was "459" - a reference to the first Marvel comics story involving a Kree Sentry robot, no doubt.
The interesting thing though, is that in original Marvel continuity, Kree Sentry 459 was left on Earth many milenia earlier by a Kree science team experiment on sub-humans, (which lead to the evolution of Blackbolt and the Inhumans), first appeared in, and fought, The Fantastic Four.
(Yes, I'm an old silver age comic book geek/fan, whos enjoying this series, and it's use and crafty weaving of 40 year old Marvel comics lore into a more cohesive mass.)
The interesting thing though, is that in original Marvel continuity, Kree Sentry 459 was left on Earth many milenia earlier by a Kree science team experiment on sub-humans, (which lead to the evolution of Blackbolt and the Inhumans), first appeared in, and fought, The Fantastic Four.
(Yes, I'm an old silver age comic book geek/fan, whos enjoying this series, and it's use and crafty weaving of 40 year old Marvel comics lore into a more cohesive mass.)
"Widow's Sting" was a blast. I loved the banter between Hawkeye and Mockingbird (Easily my favorite super-hero duo in the MU. It's a shame the current Hawkeye and Mockingbird book is coming to such a pre-mature end. It was easily the best book that nobody was buying. Kids today won't buy a new book unless it has Deadpool, Wolverine or Spider-Man in it.) The chemestry between them was perfect and right in character.
Between Natasha saving Clint from Strucker and the "mysterious signal" that brought Cap and the Panther to Hydra Island, I think it pretty obvious that Natasha is really working for the good guys (as if there were really any doubt).
I loved all of the pipe that was laid for future stories... "The Fat Man" could be the Kingpin, Count Nefaria was mentioned and the mention of Alexander Lukin was significant, as it possibly sets up the Winter Soldier/Bucky storyline.
And then the revelation at the end...
Anyone know when the next new episode is?
Between Natasha saving Clint from Strucker and the "mysterious signal" that brought Cap and the Panther to Hydra Island, I think it pretty obvious that Natasha is really working for the good guys (as if there were really any doubt).
I loved all of the pipe that was laid for future stories... "The Fat Man" could be the Kingpin, Count Nefaria was mentioned and the mention of Alexander Lukin was significant, as it possibly sets up the Winter Soldier/Bucky storyline.
And then the revelation at the end...
Anyone know when the next new episode is?
Aww, dang, I forgot this was on this morning.
it will repeat at 10:30pm est.
Wow, I read your post with 90 seconds to spare. Thanks!
EDIT: And this was a heck of an episode, with hints dropped about multiple developing plotlines. Some impressive action storyboarding too, especially the "follow the arrow" shot that went through Widow's hair. (Real arrows don't move anything like that -- they wobble back and forth in flight rather than going missile-straight -- but I'm willing to forgive that in this case.)
Mockingbird was pretty impressive, and yeah, "the costume has a lot to do with it." But not everything. She's a cool character. And she's played by Elizabeth (E. G.) Daily, who was Buttercup on The Powerpuff Girls. My one problem is that sometimes her hair and her mask's eye holes were drawn in a way that didn't line up.
The main thing that bugged me here, which is something of a problem series-wide, is that it's the kind of show where the characters spend far too much time in their costumes and masks. I mean, those things have got to get uncomfortable. You'd think they'd only wear them when they're actually in action. But here we had Iron Man wearing his full armor and mask 100 percent of the time, even when he was in a meeting with Fury. That doesn't make any sense. The others' gear is probably just uncomfortable, but using that super-high-tech armor has got to be costing Stark money every second he has it powered up. You'd think he wouldn't use it without need. Come to that, I question whether SHIELD would even allow him to wear it aboard the Helicarrier, given how heavily beweaponed it is.
EDIT: And this was a heck of an episode, with hints dropped about multiple developing plotlines. Some impressive action storyboarding too, especially the "follow the arrow" shot that went through Widow's hair. (Real arrows don't move anything like that -- they wobble back and forth in flight rather than going missile-straight -- but I'm willing to forgive that in this case.)
Mockingbird was pretty impressive, and yeah, "the costume has a lot to do with it." But not everything. She's a cool character. And she's played by Elizabeth (E. G.) Daily, who was Buttercup on The Powerpuff Girls. My one problem is that sometimes her hair and her mask's eye holes were drawn in a way that didn't line up.
The main thing that bugged me here, which is something of a problem series-wide, is that it's the kind of show where the characters spend far too much time in their costumes and masks. I mean, those things have got to get uncomfortable. You'd think they'd only wear them when they're actually in action. But here we had Iron Man wearing his full armor and mask 100 percent of the time, even when he was in a meeting with Fury. That doesn't make any sense. The others' gear is probably just uncomfortable, but using that super-high-tech armor has got to be costing Stark money every second he has it powered up. You'd think he wouldn't use it without need. Come to that, I question whether SHIELD would even allow him to wear it aboard the Helicarrier, given how heavily beweaponed it is.
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Well given SHIELD's history Tony was probably just playing it safe that they would be attacked by some Super Villain.
I was expecting a longer break, but Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes will return on January 9th with part one of a three part story featuring Kang the Conquerer.