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Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1 - Discuss and Grade

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It's a perfect example, actually, of something left out of the films and later regretted!
In fairness, wasn't Deathly Hallows (the book) released around the same time of the film so they couldn't really have known how significant the mirror would be.

At one point (but maybe not anymore?) they were consulting with Rowling so they would know what bits were okay to excise. Maybe they came up with a workaround that she approved.

From what I hear, she was notoriously secretive with her work and wouldn't even let them in on the slightest secrets, even though the films could have ultimately benefited from it. If she knew that she was going to hold the littlest details from the film makers, she should have told them to wait it out. Hell, I think the movies would have made even more money if they were the only Harry Potter stuff being released.
 
It's a shame they couldn't have roped Gary Oldman in for a flashback and used jiggery pokery to for a younger Harry.
Gary Oldman is in Deathly Hallows, Part 2, for the scene where Harry summons the shades of James, Lily, Remus and Sirius prior to going to die.
I know that, but I was talking about a mirror giving scene specifically.
 
"Ms. Rowling, we were wondering about the bit with Harry and Sirius' mirror. Is that important?"

"Sorry, can't talk now. All this bloody money isn't going to spend itself you know!"
 
She does give them advice about cutting or not cutting stuff, from what we know; she was the reason that Kreacher was kept in OotP (albeit really briefly). And she told Kloves the Dumbledore was gay.
 
Sorry for not reading everything in this thread, but I just saw the movie. When the locket is destroyed, I thought I heard Ron say "three left". ??? Did I miss something. Aren't there four lockets left? Or did I just hear wrong?
 
I enjoyed the movie, but that "running in the woods" scene was just cringe-worthy. Those jump-cuts were painful to watch. The director should know better.

I'm starting to get a little sick of those myself. They seem to be cropping up in a lot of movies. Quantum of Solace had them and I thought it made the action scenes worse, not better.If the audience can't tell who is who, then what's the point?

I gave the movie a high grade. It was enjoyable and I'm glad that FINALLY they did the right thing and made it a two parter. It's just too bad that they waited so long because IMO The Half Blood Prince was greatly neutered.
 
Yes, you heard right. I think it can be explained thus...

The book (Harry destroyed it in book/movie 2),

The ring (Dumbledore destroyed it between book 5&6)

The locket (Just got blitzed in movie 7a)

And whatever "horcrux" that Voldemort has housing the piece of soul he's actually using..... =4.

That leaves 3 left to find & destroy.
 
Since I haven't the book (yet), am I correct in assuming that none of the Hallows (Invisibility Cloak, Elder Wand, Resurrection Stone) were used as a Horcrux?
 
Yes, you heard right. I think it can be explained thus...

The book (Harry destroyed it in book/movie 2),

The ring (Dumbledore destroyed it between book 5&6)

The locket (Just got blitzed in movie 7a)

And whatever "horcrux" that Voldemort has housing the piece of soul he's actually using..... =4.

That leaves 3 left to find & destroy.

Might explain Ron's remark, but he is wrong. There are 4 left to find based on the idea that there are 7 total, in addition to Voldemort himself. However, i think at this point our heroes may believe that part 7 is the part still in Voldemort as you say. I'm not 100% on that, been a while since I read the book.


Since I haven't the book (yet), am I correct in assuming that none of the Hallows (Invisibility Cloak, Elder Wand, Resurrection Stone) were used as a Horcrux?

The full list. SPOILERS FOR FILM 7.2

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The book (destroyed, book 2), the ring/resurrection stone (destroyed, book 6), The locket (destroyed in this film), The cup of Hufflepuff, the diadem of Ravenclaw, Nagini the snake, and Harry himself
 
I really think that this is an error in the movie's dialogue. Somebody goofed somewhere.

It's not, actually - I wasn't sure so I went back and checked the books, at this stage they believed that Voldemort had split his soul into 7 - that is, 6 horcruxes and the part still in his body.
The fact that there are in fact seven horcuxes in addition to Voldemort himself (i.e. Voldemort actually split his soul into eight) isn't revealed until very near the end.
 
It's not, actually - I wasn't sure so I went back and checked the books, at this stage they believed that Voldemort had split his soul into 7 - that is, 6 horcruxes and the part still in his body.
The fact that there are in fact seven horcuxes in addition to Voldemort himself (i.e. Voldemort actually split his soul into eight) isn't revealed until very near the end.
Although it's important to note that
Making Harry a horcrux was never intentional. So while he had split his soul into 8 pieces, he intended only 7, the "power" number. In fact, not having 7 may have contributed to his eventual destruction, if you believe in that sort of thing, which he did. I can't recall if he ever realized that Harry had part of his soul. He certainly knew of their psychic connection, but did he understand its source?
 
Saw it two weeks ago and it was a decent film. I wasn't too clear on some things because i saw the previous movies only once and it's been ages since i read the books.

As with the 7th book the part where the three are on their own dragged quite a bit but there were parts of it i simply loved.. especially the scene where the legend of the Deathly Hallows was told.. marvelous visual style.

However the real payoff will be part two.. i can't wait to see the magical world at war. For me the 2nd part only has to have 2 key scenes in it and i'll be satisfied.. everything good on top would just be icing on the cake.

First would be Neville Longbottom as the badass leader of Dumbledore's Army.. i hollered out loud when he was described as this banged up guy who got all kinds of hurt by the Deatheaters but wouldn't bow down and admit defeat and to top it off stand up to Voldemort and cutting Nagini in half with the friggin' Gryffindor sword! :techman: 2nd part would be Molly Weasly going all Ripley "NOT MY DAUGHTER YOU BITCH!" on Bellatrix Lestrange and taking her out in a fury :eek::techman:
 
I'm actually conflicted about that scene. There are several characters who have history with Bellatrix. Harry (killed his godfather), Neville (tortured his parents), Hermione (tortured her), Ron (tortured his love interest). Each of these characters could have defeated her and it would have been poetic. But, Molly Weasley did it because a curse of hers went near her daughter. It was an epic display from Molly, but I feel like the scene was anti-climactic considering it was Bellatrix. Then again, I feel the same way about Voldemort's death... How I would have done it was have Neville defeat her, but spare her, proving that the good guys are better.
 
Saw it two weeks ago and it was a decent film. I wasn't too clear on some things because i saw the previous movies only once and it's been ages since i read the books.

As with the 7th book the part where the three are on their own dragged quite a bit but there were parts of it i simply loved.. especially the scene where the legend of the Deathly Hallows was told.. marvelous visual style.

However the real payoff will be part two.. i can't wait to see the magical world at war. For me the 2nd part only has to have 2 key scenes in it and i'll be satisfied.. everything good on top would just be icing on the cake.

First would be Neville Longbottom as the badass leader of Dumbledore's Army.. i hollered out loud when he was described as this banged up guy who got all kinds of hurt by the Deatheaters but wouldn't bow down and admit defeat and to top it off stand up to Voldemort and cutting Nagini in half with the friggin' Gryffindor sword! :techman: 2nd part would be Molly Weasly going all Ripley "NOT MY DAUGHTER YOU BITCH!" on Bellatrix Lestrange and taking her out in a fury :eek::techman:
As to your first key scene..
I think they hinted at that with the scene on the train, where Neville stood up and practically spit in their face..."He's not here." Go Neville!
 
Neville is really the quiet hero of the series. I was so impressed when we found out what happened to his parents in Book V and how he really started to stand up for himself. It would have been nice to see him as a part of the big three, but for the last three books his presence would have overshadowed Ron's.
 
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