Yep. Can you imagine how crazy-spooky it would be to have near-silent Mondasian Cybes lurking from the shadows? None of those insipid "Delete!" catchphrases or loud metal stomping in unison nonsense...
Time for a Cybermen redesign?
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Yep. Can you imagine how crazy-spooky it would be to have near-silent Mondasian Cybes lurking from the shadows? None of those insipid "Delete!" catchphrases or loud metal stomping in unison nonsense...
You'd have to take that up with Gerry Davis or Robert Holmes. Cuz I'll be dipped if I know.
Thankfully, judging by their quick appearance in The Pandorica Opens, the Moff is toning that crap down a lot.
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as long as Moffat is having everything else redesigned...
Let me wheel this old pic out one more time as my personal choice on how I would like to see the Mondasian's Cybes appear...
That's creepy. I'd like to see it with the areas around the eyes and mouth reddish instead of black--like it's flesh that's healing around an implant.
Anyone else ever read the novelisation of Tomb Of The Cybermen?
There's a scene in there the describes the evolution of the Cybermen and one talks about the human face behind the cyberman helmet - the pic above could suit that nicely.
(though I was disappointed when I finally saw the episode and we didn't get to see the pictures of the evolution of the cybermen).
Though the pic above does make me thing of what ADavros would be like if he went through cyberconversion.
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A picture speaks a thousand words - the Cybes in TPO came in *ships* in Roman times, and the ship we saw was pretty identical to the ones in The Invasion. So, sorry, they're our universe's cybes...
Speaking of pics - that's a nice converted Leatherface. Wonder if he'd have a built-in chainsaw?
be careful what you wish for, we might get multi coloured Cybermen with big bums...
You mean since it's already been done to the Daleks?
The Cybus design looks fine. Why spend money on this?
Because you and five other people like it. Meanwhile, the rest of us want something new. Just that simple.
But, that's an extrapolation mixed with guesswork. Nowhere in the episode did they say it was the Mondasian Cybes. Nowhere did they hint that. At all. They were, literally, the Cybusmen outfits, clanging around like the Cybusmen, and talking like the Cybusmen (about the threat The Doctor carried for ALL universes...why would Mondasians care about other universes?). In the end, I am left with only one real conclusion: These were the Cybusmen. Seems pretty clear-cut and obvious to me...
Couldn't hurt!
I'd love to see some technical improvements to the Cybermen... 
You got it! You five got your prancing metal tits for five RTD years. You can't expect DW to pander to the minority longer than that, though. Time to go back to the superior models now, for the rest of us.
I've heard the same rumor. Yet, in the end, they had Cybusmen in the show. So, I guess he might have wanted the Mondasians, but just didn't have the budget. Maybe next season?
Wow. "Five RTD years?" Those must have been an awfully long six entire episodes the RTD Cybermen appeared in!
Aaaaaaand... You know which version of the Cybermen is more popular, how?
I've heard the same rumor. Yet, in the end, they had Cybusmen in the show. So, I guess he might have wanted the Mondasians, but just didn't have the budget. Maybe next season?
So if Moffat says they were Mondasian even if they looked Cybusian, his word doesn't count?
Well, verify the accuracy of the rumor, first. But, honestly, it would be like him saying the Daleks in PO/BB were the gold RTD ones. It makes no sense compared to what we saw on the screen. Thus, unless someone on screen says that those were Mondasian, I think what walks like a duck, looks like a duck, stomps like a duck, and quacks like a duck is...in fact......wait for it...........yes, that's right: a duck.
Common sense.
I have some quibbles with the way the new Cybs have been written (though I like the visual design) but I also don't see why them coming from Cybus or Telos or Mondas makes a difference. If Tom MacRae sat down to write another Cyberman story, I doubt he'd be saying, "Well, I was writing the Cybermen as super crappy because they came from alternate Earth, but now they come from duplicate Earth, so I'll write them as awesome."
"The Next Doctor" would play out exactly the same if the Doctor had said these Cybermen had come from Mondas in the 1980s instead of the Void, and as the dispute in this thread indicates "The Pandorica Opens" would go exactly the same way whether those Cybermen were from Mondas or Cybus.
It's a difference that makes no difference.
"The Next Doctor" would play out exactly the same if the Doctor had said these Cybermen had come from Mondas in the 1980s instead of the Void, and as the dispute in this thread indicates "The Pandorica Opens" would go exactly the same way whether those Cybermen were from Mondas or Cybus.
It's a difference that makes no difference.
Well, verify the accuracy of the rumor, first. But, honestly, it would be like him saying the Daleks in PO/BB were the gold RTD ones. It makes no sense compared to what we saw on the screen. Thus, unless someone on screen says that those were Mondasian, I think what walks like a duck, looks like a duck, stomps like a duck, and quacks like a duck is...in fact......wait for it...........yes, that's right: a duck.
Common sense.
Is there a reason the Mondasian Cybermen can't look like the Cybus Cybermen?
Well, verify the accuracy of the rumor, first. But, honestly, it would be like him saying the Daleks in PO/BB were the gold RTD ones. It makes no sense compared to what we saw on the screen. Thus, unless someone on screen says that those were Mondasian, I think what walks like a duck, looks like a duck, stomps like a duck, and quacks like a duck is...in fact......wait for it...........yes, that's right: a duck.
Common sense.
Is there a reason the Mondasian Cybermen can't look like the Cybus Cybermen?
Nothing says they can't, no. They just don't. Do birds look like planes? Do cars look like bulldozers? So far, we've seen nothing in Doctor Who that says Mondasian Cybes have suddenly changed to look like Cybusmen.
Are you going somewhere with this, or just nitpicking to be heard? I can tell you're edging around for a debate here. But, honestly, you should pick another subject. This one isn't even debatable. Facts are facts.
