Did Nero "break" the Space-Time Continnum?

[kkozoriz1]

How do we know Spock didn't hitch a ride back with Picard or Kirk Prime? He's a smart guy. He could figure out a way to get on board without anyone noticing, the computer monitors included.

 

[Hartzilla2007]

You know I don't think Spock is in a big hurry to get back to his universe since he was helping the Vulcan's in the nuverse rebuild their civilization and I don't think he would just up and leave since the movie made it clear he felt responsible for the destruction Nero caused.

 

[kkozoriz1]

Which is as stupid as Nero blaming Spock for what happened to Romulus.

 

[Hartzilla2007]

Which is as stupid as Nero blaming Spock for what happened to Romulus.

Yeah, becuase Nero who was NUTS at time blaming Spock who tried to save his worl for failing BECAUSE HE'S NUTS is the same as Spock feeling responsible for the destruction cause by Nero becuase Nero did so to take revenge on Spock as in Nero killed billions becuase wanted percieved payback on Spock.

And even if Spock didn't feel responsible are you actually saying Spock shouldn't want to help the nuVulcans like he clearly wanted to do at the end of the film for some reason.

 

[JarodRussell]

Nero (and his entire crew) being nuts for 25 years is a bit of a stretch, imo.

 

[kkozoriz1]

Spock had no more control over Nero that he did over the supernova. He can go help the Vulcans resettle but saying it's because he feels responsible is a dumb motivation.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Nero (and his entire crew) being nuts for 25 years is a bit of a stretch, imo.

Khan was nuts for 15 years, and he didn't have a 200 year Vulcanoid lifespan.

 

[F. King Daniel]

^He assumed he was in his own universe, but he wasn't. In his universe, he made a log entry about losing that silly competition. In the universe he was in when it ended, things unfolded differently - ergo, alternate universe.

No, Worf won the tournament in his own universe.

Oops, you're right - but Worf still set off a new chain of events when he arrived in "his" universe at the end, just before it all started - and since events unfolded differently from that point on, is it really the same universe? I say not quite.

 

[JarodRussell]

Nero (and his entire crew) being nuts for 25 years is a bit of a stretch, imo.

Khan was nuts for 15 years, and he didn't have a 200 year Vulcanoid lifespan.

Khan wasn't nuts. But I believe we have discussed that in another thread already.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

^He assumed he was in his own universe, but he wasn't. In his universe, he made a log entry about losing that silly competition. In the universe he was in when it ended, things unfolded differently - ergo, alternate universe.

No, Worf won the tournament in his own universe.

Oops, you're right - but Worf still set off a new chain of events when he arrived in "his" universe at the end, just before it all started - and since events unfolded differently from that point on, is it really the same universe? I say not quite.

Most of this episode took place in various alternate universes. It was only at the end that Worf arrived in his own. So he didn't change anything, if that's what you're getting at.