I demand that the Enterprise-A schematic conform to the canonical on-screen evidence that the ship is 78 decks tall. Anything else is a fanwank, and the book will be an abomination.
USS ENTERPRISE HAYNES OWNERS MANUAL (Part 3)
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Startrek.com has a Q&A with a Haynes editor about the book here: http://www.startrek.com/article/inside-the-haynes-enterprise-manual
There's also a sample page, showing some views of the Enterprise-B: http://www.startrek.com/uploads/assets/articles/3e6f5461718bda8d227c647a466cc6e58ffec690.jpg
There's also a sample page, showing some views of the Enterprise-B: http://www.startrek.com/uploads/assets/articles/3e6f5461718bda8d227c647a466cc6e58ffec690.jpg
Okay. All I know is it would be nice if the interior content is more accurate than the cover. But if that shuttlecraft page is a sample then I'm not hopeful. I'll still get it out of curiosity, but it's disappointing. If dedicated fans with limited resources can do incredibly faithful and well thought out renderings then why can't these guys do it with TPTB granting them access to all sorts of extensive resource material?
And before anyone carps, "Could any of you do any better?" the answer is, "Hell, yeah!" A number of folks on this site alone have already done better.
I'll also add that I'll be paying for material I couldn't care less for.
NX-01 - not a bad design in itself, but I really don't care.
TOS Enterprise 1701 - the classic holy grail for me.
TMP Enterprise 1701 refit - the next best thing to the holy grail.
GEN Enterprise 1701B - ugly as sin and few really care.
TNG Enterprise 1701C - the frumpy one few really like.
TNG Enterprise 1701D - it's grown on me enough that I'm curious.
TNG Enterprise 1701E - the kewl one that still leaves me cold.
And Thank God they haven't included JJ's Uglyprise.
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Anybody else catch this bit?
JJ and Co. are making a concerted effort to make sure nobody else gets to play in their sandbox.
"Well, duh," is the obvious answer, but think about this for a bit. One of the fun things about Star Trek is how people rushed in from all corners to fill in the gaps and play with the universe (always with the understanding that their efforts really didn't go much further than their own entertainment; even before "THE MEMO" it was always understood that only what's onscreen counted). With Bad Robot shutting down all these ancillary efforts, that's gonna cut into the audience generating any interest in their product.
The JJVerse may crash and burn sooner than expected.
JJ and Co. are making a concerted effort to make sure nobody else gets to play in their sandbox.
"Well, duh," is the obvious answer, but think about this for a bit. One of the fun things about Star Trek is how people rushed in from all corners to fill in the gaps and play with the universe (always with the understanding that their efforts really didn't go much further than their own entertainment; even before "THE MEMO" it was always understood that only what's onscreen counted). With Bad Robot shutting down all these ancillary efforts, that's gonna cut into the audience generating any interest in their product.
The JJVerse may crash and burn sooner than expected.
If people make these distinctions between "Original Trek" and "JJTrek", it's mostly Abrams & Co's fault. If this doesn't change by the second movie, the "new, fresh and exciting" universe will pretty soon be forgotten about, I guess. There will be two further movies by Abrams, Orci & Co, and then it will be gone and rebooted again. No spin offs, no tie ins, nothing.
And as of yet, nobody could provide me with figures that show that Star Trek 2009 has refreshed the franchise in any way. Everyone says so, but nobody has backed that up with numbers. Rise in DVD, book and merchandise sales of TOS, TNG, etc, anything? The movie itself and its novelization were highly successful, yeah. And the next movie will certainly break a billion worldwide. But I see that as a completely separate franchise, no side effects to the "original" one. And if it's gone after the third JJTrek movie, then it was also just a straw fire.
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So far from what I've seen of the book (in samples), I'm not really wowed here. I could probably get all the info online at Memory-Alpha, Memory-Beta, and Ex Scientia, and it be a damn sight better to boot.
Yeah, I don't get where people are saying it's refreshing the franchise either. To me, at least, it appears that they're actively trying to draw a hard line between the two franchises. And in doing so are will to let the first franchise wither on the vine-- save for comics and novels.
Yeah, I don't get where people are saying it's refreshing the franchise either. To me, at least, it appears that they're actively trying to draw a hard line between the two franchises. And in doing so are will to let the first franchise wither on the vine-- save for comics and novels.
The fact that the book will have almost nothing on the JJ-Prise just makes me feel better about buying it. If only they'd get rid of the NX-01, it'd be perfect. I'll be getting it mostly for the TOS ship, but having some "meaty" info on the 1701-E is a bonus.
No, it's there. You can see the door to the aft compartment right behind the "N" in "NCC".
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You people are... funny.
You acknowledge the success of this latest incarnation of the franchise but dismiss it at the same time as a different franchise.
Tell that to the people at Paramount; they'd probably laugh you in the face.
Yes, but my point was that there's still not enough room for an aft compartment, at least not one like we saw onscreen. All they did here was leave out the engine components to suggest a larger space, but otherwise it's still pretty much like the FJ specs.
But I don't mean to complain, I actually like both versions, just not screen accurate is all.
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But I dont mean to complain, I actually like both versions, just not screen accurate is all.
Well, technically, it is impossible to have a screen-accurate shuttlecraft exterior and interior... without evoking TARDIS technology.
Hmm... http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=119088But I dont mean to complain, I actually like both versions, just not screen accurate is all.
Well, technically, it is impossible to have a screen-accurate shuttlecraft exterior and interior... without evoking TARDIS technology.
Here's what I think they're doing. They're creating 2 distinct sandboxes. Their hope has got to be that fans will buy from each sandbox, not just one.
They could have tried the bold thing and do a nuTrek movie in 2009, a TNG era movie in 2010, a nuTrek movie in 2011, and so forth...
Or a new TNG era film on DVD at least. But they effectively killed off the old franchise. Nobody's going to return to it.
It was, just sloppily done.