Ohh, Aww, Young and Wray clash over the Lucian prisoners… color me excited.
SG-U - Aftermath - (2x02) - (Discuss – Grade | SPOILERS)
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Ohh, Aww, Young and Wray clash over the Lucian prisoners… color me excited.
Rush "direct[ing] the ship" at least implies that some more control has been gained over the Destiny, so at least there's some progress on that front. This feels like about the right length of time to gain some directional control. As for Young and Wray disagreeing over the prisoners, I'm surprised there'd even be a disagreement. I can't currently picture either wanting to trust the LA prisoners at all.
Well, Varro is a pretty sensible guy and is pretty competent, unlike Col. Young, so that maybe Wray's reason for keeping him around.
Hell, considering Varro is a bad guy, he's probably one of the most likeable people on board the ship. I hope he stays around for a long, long time.
God, this episode is so messed up. The Rush bits and the Riley stuff are the only thing that really moves forward, while the rest sort of aimlessly wanders around. And killing Riley, while actually moving, is a major mistake. All the secondary cast members have been more memorable than the leads, so killing them is a bad move.
^ That's what Chloe said...
Overall this episode is an improvement over last week. Last week was very weak, I never liked the LA takeover stuff, and for a premier episode last week was bad, but this episode this week is a big improvement. So I'm satisfied that there is improvement over last week, I'll probably be generous and grade well this week.
I was a little worried we were going to get that same ole music montage at the end, they almost did it, but it was a little different this time, so not as bad, I really hope they don't do a montage every episode.
I'm a little leery on the reasoning for the ship skipping over the planet cause the gate was buried. How did the ship know the gate was buried. I guess there is some kind of subspace link with all the gates, and it just wasn't getting a signal from that one, so it put a big red X on it.
Why did the shuttle all of the sudden lose power in the atmosphere? That was never explained. I thought at first that maybe there was something on the planet that dampens power sources, and that is why the shuttle lost power and would be the reason why the gate didn't work. THAT would have been more interesting to explore if both the shuttle and the gate were for some reason power less on the planet, and that is why Destiny locked it out. So that didn't turn out like I thought it would at first.
The bridge set is ok, I would like to see it fully manned though, seems like they'll be able to get full control of the ship now that the master code is cracked.
Oh, I'm really curious what the LA chick was talking about, how this ship could give you the power of a God and control Time and Space. I find that very interesting considering when this ship was sent out, millions of years ago, it is one of the Ancients earlier ship designs and not as advanced as Atlantis, so how could it control space and time of Atlantis couldn't? I want to learn more about this ships "Destiny"
Gosh Young should not be in charge though, heck put Telford in command.
You know what's really sad? It is now 2 and a half hours since the show aired, and only a handful of people have posted about it, and only 2 people have graded it, and I'm one of those two. Gone are the days of active day-of Stargate discussions, either live commentary or grading. If that doesn't show the decline in interest, I don't know what does. Tuesday is such a horrible night so far for this show, real interested in the ratings for tonight's episode.
I was a little worried we were going to get that same ole music montage at the end, they almost did it, but it was a little different this time, so not as bad, I really hope they don't do a montage every episode.
I'm a little leery on the reasoning for the ship skipping over the planet cause the gate was buried. How did the ship know the gate was buried. I guess there is some kind of subspace link with all the gates, and it just wasn't getting a signal from that one, so it put a big red X on it.
Why did the shuttle all of the sudden lose power in the atmosphere? That was never explained. I thought at first that maybe there was something on the planet that dampens power sources, and that is why the shuttle lost power and would be the reason why the gate didn't work. THAT would have been more interesting to explore if both the shuttle and the gate were for some reason power less on the planet, and that is why Destiny locked it out. So that didn't turn out like I thought it would at first.
The bridge set is ok, I would like to see it fully manned though, seems like they'll be able to get full control of the ship now that the master code is cracked.
Oh, I'm really curious what the LA chick was talking about, how this ship could give you the power of a God and control Time and Space. I find that very interesting considering when this ship was sent out, millions of years ago, it is one of the Ancients earlier ship designs and not as advanced as Atlantis, so how could it control space and time of Atlantis couldn't? I want to learn more about this ships "Destiny"
Gosh Young should not be in charge though, heck put Telford in command.
You know what's really sad? It is now 2 and a half hours since the show aired, and only a handful of people have posted about it, and only 2 people have graded it, and I'm one of those two. Gone are the days of active day-of Stargate discussions, either live commentary or grading. If that doesn't show the decline in interest, I don't know what does. Tuesday is such a horrible night so far for this show, real interested in the ratings for tonight's episode.
Maybe not so bad. The Tuesday night NCIS discussions and other shows this season are also gone/limited. Maybe something about the board population has changed?
^ There was a time when there was a need for two threads, running commentary, and then grading, because there were so many people actively discussing the shows live, and then making some really long posts about it in the grading threads, it use to be very active, and it just isn't anymore, I guess it started dying toward the end of Atlantis. It is sad, I remember the good ole days, Farscape/SG1/BSG/Atlantis, all these shows back-to-back on SCIFI Fridays, I had like 3 forum topics to move through in one night, it was awesome.
Another bridge of a starship sitting in the ship's most vulnerable spot as if you needed an officers eyeball to see things like in a sailing ship. You would think someone would learn from the Borg and protect the control center from the catfish and others. At least it retracts like a periscope.
I'm still trying to figure out exactly what I felt about the episode, so I don't think I can grade it quite yet.
Some disjointed thoughts:
I'm annoyed with Young that he doesn't seem to ever give any serious consideration to Wray's thoughts, even though I'm not sure that I'd feel any differently towards the LA personnel who were still on the ship at the beginning of the episode. Speaking of which, I wonder how Robert Knepper feels about the fact that we could see his character in both episodes of the season so far but he didn't really do much except stand around - what a waste of talent. I liked the scenes down on the planet following the shuttle crash, particularly TJ's conversation with Riley even though I thought the TJ bits in the premiere were ridiculous. I'm sad that Riley is dead, since he was one of the few likable characters on the ship, but I suppose that means his death actually worked for me. Telford should have taken Wray back with him for his report to try to convince O'Neill that Young needs to be replaced. The Rush bits on the bridge were sort of interesting, especially since he himself is wondering if he's losing his mind or if the ship is projecting people to communicate with him. I am, however, quite tired of this nonsense about Rush keeping secrets from the others. As he(?) pointed out to himself(?), he has a crew - use them to keep the ship running!
this ep had way way way better pacing that the premiere ep, i didnt look at the clock once this episode...hey writers! was that so hard!!!! we have things happening! 
but Wray annoys the hell out of me, but i love love love Ming Na 
but Wray annoys the hell out of me, but i love love love Ming Na 
Riley dieing is another mistake along with Franklin dieing. These guys were likeable and interesting and didnt look cookie cutter. They werent some some guy that use to model underwear. They were one of us, a normal looking dudes and very interesting. So what do they do, get rid of them.
And Young killing him, how pathetic and cold. Get the LA guys off the ship and help move the dam thing sitting on Riley and giving him a fighting chance. Cant ever see a member of SG-1 or Atlantis ever doing this.
Finally figured out what i dont like about this show. Nothing happens, or moves too darn slow. This whole episode should of been 15mins and other stuff should of been going on at the same time. We need more going on in the episode.
LA guys storyline dont do anything for me. Figured Wray would turn on us AGAIN and use them to take over the ship.
Whom am i to like on this ship anyway? Rush is nuts but atleast seems to understand that Young should be shot and sucked out into space.
This whole subplot about Rush figureing out where the bridge was. How did he know where to look? Master code fine but what does that have to do with finding the Bridge and the code to open the door to it.
And please speed it up to where Young and crew find out about it and we get on with the series. Get the crew together and start this show.
I like the show cause its Stargate, so im stickin with it, but man its hard.
I gave it a seven. Infinitely better than the crap from last week. Yeah, no clue why they're wasting Knepper for that Jughead to get screen time. I don't really care about the dude that died, but it was decently done. I think I caught one glimpse of Chloe comforting douchebag, and she didn't get any lines as far as I noticed, so that probably helps. Though of course that just means they unnaturally ignored her miracle regenerative abilities for a week, but whatever.
I think the worst part of this episode may have been the actual crash scene... the CGI was so bland... the clipping of the mountain.... it just felt really fake... BSG did that sort of thing much much better (well, I suppose BSG did a lot of stuff much much better, but you know what I mean).
I think the worst part of this episode may have been the actual crash scene... the CGI was so bland... the clipping of the mountain.... it just felt really fake... BSG did that sort of thing much much better (well, I suppose BSG did a lot of stuff much much better, but you know what I mean).
Another bridge of a starship sitting in the ship's most vulnerable spot as if you needed an officers eyeball to see things like in a sailing ship. You would think someone would learn from the Borg and protect the control center from the catfish and others. At least it retracts like a periscope.
1.) When the Ancients built the ship, there weren't many other races at the time, and none that seemed to be hostile. Their design choice wasn't born out of the need to protect that bridge to such lengths considering the ship already has good shields. The ship isn't a war ship.
2.) The entire bridge platform, if you noticed, recedes into the ship, so if things get bad, it ducks down inside flesh with the ship, the entire bridge section moves up and down, as they showed. This could give it added protection in a fire fight.
And anyway, humans didn't build this ship, it wasn't built with human thinking, it was designed by aliens, called Ancients, who think differently than us, and design differently than us.
ummm last time i checked the ancients were the first evolution of HUMANS
Another bridge of a starship sitting in the ship's most vulnerable spot as if you needed an officers eyeball to see things like in a sailing ship. You would think someone would learn from the Borg and protect the control center from the catfish and others. At least it retracts like a periscope.
1.) When the Ancients built the ship, there weren't many other races at the time, and none that seemed to be hostile. Their design choice wasn't born out of the need to protect that bridge to such lengths considering the ship already has good shields. The ship isn't a war ship.
2.) The entire bridge platform, if you noticed, recedes into the ship, so if things get bad, it ducks down inside flesh with the ship, the entire bridge section moves up and down, as they showed. This could give it added protection in a fire fight.
And anyway, humans didn't build this ship, it wasn't built with human thinking, it was designed by aliens, called Ancients, who think differently than us, and design differently than us.
