(UEFA) Football Thread - Football not Soccer

[HappyDayRiot]

All I know is that this result - well done Blackpool - coupled with Everton's first win of the season, coupled with how bad Liverpool are at the moment, means there could be one hell of a Merseyside derby in a little under a fortnight's time.

Though I daresay the usual Everton superiority will be broken by the usual Gerrard rocket shot fluke!

 

[Jax]

This is true, let's face it Everton are a big club in terms of fanbase and history as well but financially aren't remotely big hitters anymore.

I could never understand all these other clubs being brought who waste the money they had before any takeover but Everton with Moyes/Kenwright who do good by their club can't seem to attract any investor. With Liverpool on its knees, Everton have the chance to put the boot in their rivals but they need to sort out there main issue...

Strikers because there defence is solid and there midfield is crazy strong IMO for a non top 4 team, just injuries ruin them too often.

 

[Jax]

Capello names his ENG squad and well

Goalkeepers
Ben Foster, Robert Green, Joe Hart

Defenders
Ashley Cole, Phil Jagielka, Glen Johnson, Rio Ferdinand, Joleon Lescott, John Terry, Stephen Warnock

Midfielders
Gareth Barry, Joe Cole, Steven Gerrard, Tom Huddlestone, Adam Johnson, Aaron Lennon, Jack Wilshere, Shaun Wright-Phillips, Ashley Young

Strikers
Darren Bent, Peter Crouch, Kevin Davies, Wayne Rooney

SWP not even playing for Man City. Gary Cahill booted out the squad but Lescott whose not a regular in Citys squad is kept.

If SWP gets in then Owen should be in, I mean KEVIN DAVIES 33 year old never played with ZERO chance of making it to Euro 2012.

Lennon form does not deserve the call up either and Carson been much better than Green. If it wasn't for injuries I would of dropped Rooney but he should not start at at all, either Bent/Crouch or Bent as lone striker.

Same old Capello.

 

[HappyDayRiot]

Lescott has played the last 3-4 games for City hasn't he?

Poor squad at any rate. SWP boggles the mind.

 

[Jax]

Lescott has played the last 3-4 games for City hasn't he?

Poor squad at any rate. SWP boggles the mind.

Hes played a few at left back but has not played them all unlike Cahill, who is better anyway.

 

[Jax]

Rooney been saying for the past week he needs to find his anger again to help him on the pitch, well this should help...

Macheda said this about the Man Utd Star...Rooney is a really great person, he always gives me advice, "but he's a bit working class and vulgar."

Now Rooney is a complete idiot but this bit I find fucking digusting...

a bit working class

WTF . I think Macheda may find out that quite a lot of his fans are working class and this comment will not go down well with them, rooney or Fergie.

 

[Roger Wilco]

Sounds like just a nicer way to say "chav" or "white trash" which surely applies to Rooney.

 

[Jax]

Well he should say that because coming from a working class family, I find it pretty offensive remark. I might go on the Utd Forums because I would love to see their reactions.

 

[Roger Wilco]

Meh. How well does Macheda even speak English? It's probably not a good idea to say something like that about a team mate, let alone the star on the team, but it's probably a bit unfair to take an inconsiderate comment like that too seriously.

 

[Starkers]

Man Utd doesn't have any working class fans, at least that's what Roy Keane said

 

[HappyDayRiot]

Who cares? It's not like any of their fans live in Manchester to get at him anyway

 

[Starkers]

This is true...they'd all be too busy buying green and yellow scarves to care anyway.

 

[Jax]

Manchester United have posted an overall loss of £83m, after costs associated with the club's massive debt wiped out record operating profits for the year

It gets worse...

Increased income from commercial and media deals helped the club to become the first English side to make over £100m in operating profit.

But Man Utd then had to make interest and other payments to service the £0.5bn debt brought to the club by the Glazer family.

Media turnover rose by £5.1m, to £104.8m, meaning these deals now bring in more than matchday turnover, which fell by over £8m to £100.1m.

Wages rose by 7% to £131.7m and there was a steep reduction in revenue gained from the disposal of players compared to last year, when Cristiano Ronaldo was sold to Real Madrid.

United's overall debt rose to £521.7m from £514.5m last year, and accounts show the club had cover a one-off cost for the successful £504m bond issue earlier this year.

The Glazers have never shown concern over the debt burden and the bond issue has offered greater flexibility with their financial dealings - even though it has an annual interest rate of 8.75% and has to be paid back in 2017.

What The Hell.

 

[Roger Wilco]

Wait, what? They made 100 million pounds profit but their debt still increased?

 

[Shazam!]

How can United be so much in debt and we never hear a thing yet Liverpool have waaaaaay less debt and it's all 9 point deductions and administration threats?

 

[Jax]

^ Actually Liverpool would avoid the 9 point penalty but I can't remember the actual reason why.

 

[HappyDayRiot]

^ Because their holding company doesn't actively do anything financially for the club, I believe. Unlike Southampton and Portsmouth. There was something in the Guardian explaining it a couple of days ago.

 

[HappyDayRiot]

Ah, scratch that. The BBC are reporting the points deduction is a very possible outcome if the owners continue to block the sale until the 15th deadline when RBS come in. It is indeed due to the intricacy of the link between the club and its holding company, Kop Holdings. KH would go into administration due to the blocked sale, and apparently it's difficult to argue the link isn't sufficient.

That said, Scudamore and co have final say on whether the deduction occurs. This could get VERY interesting - would they REALLY let this happen to the second biggest club in the country.

 

[Roger Wilco]

Hm, 9 points is kind of harsh, that almost certainly shatters any dreams of Europe this year and makes relegation a less remote (though still unlikely) possibility.

 

[Iasius]

3-0 vs Turkey. A bit higher than deserved, but a good game against what most consider our main rival in our qualification group.

Now looking forward (hopefully) to the summary of Austria's game and the three goals by Werder Bremen players. Austria is now second in the group with one less game than 3rd placed Turkey.