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MLB Talk - 2010 Season

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Yup, definitely don't want it to be competitive. I want the Wild Card to fight for it like nothing else. It should be a major upset when the Wild Card wins the World Series, not a common occurrence. Or they should just get rid of the Wild Card, have 2nd and 3rd place teams fight it out and give the first place team a guaranteed slot. If you're the best team in the AL/NL, you deserve more than a one game home field advantage. It should be set up so that the Wild Card feels as if its a blessing that they are allowed to compete at all.
 
I think that stretches the division system too far. With unequal schedules and competition solely among division rivals, it does not follow that the best three teams in each league will make the playoffs. With the Wild Card, it makes it more likely than not that the best four will make it and, if not, at least three of the four will be the best. The Wild Card is the equalizer saying "the division system isn't perfect." If the Wild Card team wins, maybe they are the best team.

Now I actually feel there are problems with the system in that the hot team has a huge advantage and that team is often the Wild Card team, but that's more a testament to the streaky nature of baseball.
 
It doesn't stretch anything. The number one team should have the overwhelming advantage. They earned it. The Wild Card didn't.
 
BTW, I did some quick math. In the past 5 seasons, the Wild Card is 32-37 with zero World Series championships. The last time they made a World Series was 2006 and the last time a WC team won the world series was 2004. Most of these teams don't make it out of the first round and when they do they lost in the second. I don't see the big deal.

EDIT: Based on your logic, why have a playoff at all?

Also, should a division with four terrible teams and one good team be taken into account? If the team has the best record because the majority of its games were against bad teams are they really the best team.
 
I'd love it if there wasn't a play off. Both seasons are long enough that the best should have risen to the top. MLB wants more money though so they won't shorten either the season or the playoffs.

Also, should a division with four terrible teams and one good team be taken into account? If the team has the best record because the majority of its games were against bad teams are they really the best team.
Doesn't change my opinion. My current team of choice plays in the toughest division in the entire league and would be impacted by this the most.
 
Oh, well that's an entirely different argument. I was talking about how to make the playoff itself more interesting. I argued that by keeping it small, it'll keep interest higher, but by rigging it so the Wild Card team probably won't win, it'll be less interesting. If you want to simply remove the playoffs, I don't even think there's mutual ground for discussing this subject.
 
That's not really what I'm saying. I think the overwhelming advantage should be given to the 1st place team. IF the topic of removing the playoffs is brought up, then I am in favor of removing them. It's a pipe dream however and doesn't fit in this conversation.
 
As baseball has expanded, the playoffs have not. The addition of only one wildcard spot is not enough when a team like the Yankees or the Red Sox can simply buy their way into a playoff berth every year.

Major League Baseball either needs to expand the playoff format or switch to a hard cap system to create some level of parity in the game.

You are quite wrong there. When the four expansion teams were added in '69, the playoffs were expanded from just to World Series to the World Series and a League Championship Series for each league. When MLB expanded in 1998, they added two League Division Series to each leagues playoffs.

I don't see where you get the notion that baseball's playoffs have never been expanded. To be honest, I wish that the NBA and NHL would adopt playoff structures similar to MLB's. The way things are, half the teams in the NBA and NHL make their respective playoffs, making the first round or two of playoffs absolutely worthless.

If you had read my posts, you would have seen that I actually said "I don't know as much as the purists." Baseball is my 4th league down the favorite list and I don't know the history as well as I know that of the NHL, so shoot me.

MLB's structure kills teams in markets where teams don't do well. The two reasons those teams survive are 1) No sports in the summer to compete and 2) Usually in markets where no other major sports league is. The fact is the in last year's NHL's Eastern Conference Finals, the two teams both made the playoffs on the last weekend as the final two seeds. I wouldn't call the first two rounds worthless.

Tell the fans of Kansas City or Seattle or us fans in Toronto or any team that has been out of the playoffs for several years that the format works.

Like I said before, the MLB, like every one outside of the NFL, needs parity.
 
Plenty of medium to small market teams are doing well, the Twins, Rockies, Rays, etc. It's not the size of the market or the giant Yankee-like payroll that makes winners. Good management and team development will do more than any payroll.
 
^ Agreed. The only way our teams can survive is if they WIN.

I know I've got some nerve saying that because I'm a Yankee fan, but if my team was not doing well (and tonight, they definitely did not :brickwall: ), I would not expect anyone to give them a handout or a bailout. One can complain all one wants about how it always seems to be the same teams making the postseason, but the fact is, those teams do it because they're the BEST.

That being said, I do hope the Yanks get in as the AL East winner rather than the wildcard (I think they've got a better chance against the Rangers than they would against the Twins), but after tonight, I'll take either one. :sigh:

(why the hell did Girardi keep Vazquez in the game for so long? Dude hit three batters IN A ROW with pitches! :mad: )
 
BTW, I did some quick math. In the past 5 seasons, the Wild Card is 32-37 with zero World Series championships. The last time they made a World Series was 2006 and the last time a WC team won the world series was 2004. Most of these teams don't make it out of the first round and when they do they lost in the second. I don't see the big deal.
Ah, that was a good year. :D
 
On another note, why is there even a debate for the Cy Young between Felix Hernandez and CC Sabathia? Hernandez completely thrashes Sabathia in every category except for wins (which is far, far overrated, as it's so dependent on the rest of the team), and I guarantee you that if the two of them switched teams, Sabathia wouldn't be leading Hernandez in that category, either.
 
On another note, why is there even a debate for the Cy Young between Felix Hernandez and CC Sabathia? Hernandez completely thrashes Sabathia in every category except for wins (which is far, far overrated, as it's so dependent on the rest of the team), and I guarantee you that if the two of them switched teams, Sabathia wouldn't be leading Hernandez in that category, either.
Honestly, I sort of agree. Maybe it's just because I catch his bad games, but whenever I watch CC I never feel he is as dominant as others say he is. He is a great pitcher, don't get me wrong but still. That being said, a win is still a win and that's the whole point of the sport.
 
(why the hell did Girardi keep Vazquez in the game for so long? Dude hit three batters IN A ROW with pitches! :mad: )

I caught some of this on MLB Network. Dude couldn't find the strike zone with a map. Shades of Rick Ankiel circa 2000 right there.
 
Look at the predictions I made in March: whoops

AL East - Yankees
AL Central - Twins
AL West - Angels
AL Wild Card - Red Sox

NL East - Braves
NL Central - Cubs
NL West - Dodgers
NL Wild Card - Phillies
 
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