Indiana Jones is a pulp hero, an archaeologist who had only three adventures before "Crystal Skull", so that's not really enough to take our general impressions of those and turn them into strict rules.
Indiana Jones 5 Still Happening With Shia Says Shia...
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Nardpuncher
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Well, sure they can go ahead and do whatever they want, but when lots of people laugh at it and say it was silly, they shouldn't sit there scratching their heads as to why.
I don't think they're scratching their heads. Movie geeks find everything silly.
"Nuked the Fridge" is a common term for = bad movie?
Really? I frequent many sites and have never, I mean NEVER heard that.
Sounds like a large bit of projecting and editorializing by the guy in that piece.
I really liked Indy 4 and I've dealt with the issues before here and elsewhere. Not going to change anyones mind but it wasn't a bad movie and fits with so much else established in the Indy film-verse. I'd have altered a few things sure but its a fine film.
All Indy adventures are crazy so for Shia to say that doesn't shock me.
Going after the Biblical Lost Ark, yeah that's routine.
Mystical stones containing diamonds that bring life to dead geography, normal.
Of course a regular brass cup that brings eternal life and heals is very regular.
Really? I frequent many sites and have never, I mean NEVER heard that.
Sounds like a large bit of projecting and editorializing by the guy in that piece.
I really liked Indy 4 and I've dealt with the issues before here and elsewhere. Not going to change anyones mind but it wasn't a bad movie and fits with so much else established in the Indy film-verse. I'd have altered a few things sure but its a fine film.
All Indy adventures are crazy so for Shia to say that doesn't shock me.
Going after the Biblical Lost Ark, yeah that's routine.
Mystical stones containing diamonds that bring life to dead geography, normal.
Of course a regular brass cup that brings eternal life and heals is very regular.
"Nuking the fridge" is the new "Jumping the shark".
It's nice to know I'm not the only one who loved that scene. I don't mean just tolerate, but actually love it. Sure it was silly and outrageous, but that's why it was so awesome. A little silliness never hurt anyone.
The problem with first seeing a movie during your childhood is that you never really break free of that. Even though it was years ago you still have some of your childhood awe and wonder interferring when you watch it again. People my age who weren't alive at the time can watch these without any of that interference.
My generation does not have any particular reverence for the original Star Wars trilogy or the original Indiana Jones trilogy. In fact, Temple of Doom and Return of the Jedi both qualify as very, very bad movies. Every bit as bad as Phantom Menace or Crystal Skull. I might feel differently if they were treasures from my childhood, of course.
^Temple of Doom may be my favourite Indy movie, and I was born after Raiders was released (I was born in 82). Different strokes. ROTJ was my favourite Star Wars for a long time, too. Now I see the error of my ways. ESB is clearly the best.
I loved the fridge scene as well. I saw a midnight screening, so was shocked to find out the next day that so many hated it.
The opening at Area 51 is by far the best part of the film
The opening at Area 51 is by far the best part of the film
Nardpuncher
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Nobody really said it but in this thread for example, the people that liked the aliens and the fridge stuff think those that didn't are screaming in nerd-rage at the screen crying. I can guarantee that's just typical internet hyperbole.
Well, anything written by Orci/Kurtzman is unlikely to be character driven.
JJ Abrams?! Seriously? The guy with only one style and who mostly uses the same creative team over and over again regardless of what movie he does? Shaky cam? Giacchino doing the music? A character driven plot, written by Lindelof or Orci/Kurtzman? That's would not be Indiana Jones at all, seriously.
But one thing Abrams does well is fast-paced action, so I think he would probably be a good choice for director-- as long as, as I noted, somebody with artistic integrity is in charge of characters and story.
I liked Mutt, too. So sue me!
Crazy plot, hmmm...hopefully they're through with aliens...what's left. Indy takes LSD? Faked moon landings? Frak it, maybe they should just go to Atlantis!
What would be so bad about that? The fact is, ALL the Indiana Jones movies have weird shit in them. That's what makes them movies.
Paramount can always merge franchises. Indiana Jones is transported into the future and gets mixed up with the Enterprise? Indiana Jones fights the Decepticons? Indiana Jones is recruited by the Impossible Mission Force?
Indiana Jones and Axel Foley in Beverly Hills Archeologist?
Indiana Jones and Axel Foley in Beverly Hills Archeologist?
"Indiana Jones and the Search for Energon"
I could totally see a crossover. And maybe Mutt could be Sam's Witwicky's great uncle or fourth cousin or something! Shia LeBouf could play his own relative!
Nardpuncher
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or even this one: 
I think as a finale you could have got away with it. If you have this cool, mysterious story that all culminates in the Ruskies capturing Indy and then leading onto what we saw in the opening scene of Crystal Skull, I think it would've have been a strong ending, especially with the nuke visual. It could have been the new 'riding off into the sunset' image from Last Crusade because it basically would have said 'well, it's not my time anymore'.
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