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Womens Right NOT Have Children and the Stigmas That Go With It..

A friend once told me that having children is one of the most selfish things that you can do. At first I didn't get it but then it occurred to me that there are so many existing children in need of loving adults in their lives. Having children just to satisfy your need to pass on your genes while ignoring those that already exist is selfish - at least I think that's what he meant. Still puzzling that one out...
 
^Plus, you know, there's the part where even if you were the most environmentally conscious person on Earth you'd wipe out every last bit of good you'd ever done right down to the last recycled can just by having one child.
 
A friend once told me that having children is one of the most selfish things that you can do. At first I didn't get it but then it occurred to me that there are so many existing children in need of loving adults in their lives. Having children just to satisfy your need to pass on your genes while ignoring those that already exist is selfish - at least I think that's what he meant. Still puzzling that one out...

That makes perfect sense to me. There are a lot of difficulties and complications in adoption, however, so it's probably not always that simple. I definitely admire those that go through the process.
 
^Plus, you know, there's the part where even if you were the most environmentally conscious person on Earth you'd wipe out every last bit of good you'd ever done right down to the last recycled can just by having one child.

Except that I've made a person. A real, living, unique human being. That's about as good as it gets for me.
 
Lots of species becoming extinct at the same time.

I think the closest this planet ever came to that was the end of the dinosaurs.

There have actually been I believe five major "extinction events" in our history that we know of. I had to do a paper on one of them in a class, and there was a pretty good Scientific American article about a current extinction event. If you're interested, I'll see if I can find a link.
 
Lots of species becoming extinct at the same time.

I think the closest this planet ever came to that was the end of the dinosaurs.

There have actually been I believe five major "extinction events" in our history that we know of. I had to do a paper on one of them in a class, and there was a pretty good Scientific American article about a current extinction event. If you're interested, I'll see if I can find a link.

I bet none of them were caused by human activity.
 
Some scientists believe that we are undergoing a sixth mass extinction event due mostly to humanity. I don't know how credible this is, as I've only read a few articles on the topic and I'm hardly a scientist. But I found a site with lots of links on the subject. I'm sure you could find more with a simple search if you are interested in the topic.
 
So I was right.

You were when you said that none of the past mass extinctions were due to human activity. However you haven't been entirely correct in other posts. Is being right really the only thing that matters to you? I wasn't trying to derail the thread but I genuinely was trying to provide you with information on a subject I thought you might find interesting.
 
^Plus, you know, there's the part where even if you were the most environmentally conscious person on Earth you'd wipe out every last bit of good you'd ever done right down to the last recycled can just by having one child.

Except that I've made a person. A real, living, unique human being. That's about as good as it gets for me.

A real person that's going to eat real food, drink real water, drive a real car, be kept warm by his or her real central heating, watch his or her real television, talk on his real mobile phone and generally have a real effect on the environment.
 
So I was right.

You were when you said that none of the past mass extinctions were due to human activity. However you haven't been entirely correct in other posts. Is being right really the only thing that matters to you? I wasn't trying to derail the thread but I genuinely was trying to provide you with information on a subject I thought you might find interesting.

Eh? You're really touchy today. It was one comment, which was correct. I've never claimed to be perfect.
 
I don't understand nihilism. In order to wish society didn't exist, you have to have a society in the first place. If it stops existing then there isn't anyone to say "this is great!" It's pointless.
 
So I was right.

You were when you said that none of the past mass extinctions were due to human activity. However you haven't been entirely correct in other posts. Is being right really the only thing that matters to you? I wasn't trying to derail the thread but I genuinely was trying to provide you with information on a subject I thought you might find interesting.

Eh? You're really touchy today. It was one comment, which was correct. I've never claimed to be perfect.

I'm the same way I am most days. I was trying to have a discussion with you about something but you seem totally uninterested in it, so I was trying to find out if you only cared about being right and not actually in humans being responsible for a current ongoing mass extinction event.
 
I don't understand nihilism. In order to wish society didn't exist, you have to have a society in the first place. If it stops existing then there isn't anyone to say "this is great!" It's pointless.

It's not nihilism. It's the absence of the assumption that life on Earth is better off for having humans around.
 
Some scientists believe that we are undergoing a sixth mass extinction event due mostly to humanity.

I feel duty bound to point out that they had a three-part episode of The X-Files about this. Fantastic trilogy.

I was just going to say that! Scully's little monologue in the intro also made me very curious to learn about the other big extinctions.
 
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