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The Australian Election Thread

latest Nielsen poll -

Primary vote : Coal 45/ALP 36 :wtf:

2PP : Coal 52/ALP 48

I don't give a rats what the bookies' odds are saying - with a primary vote that low, the ALP can't win, and the punters backing them are going to do their dough.

Stand by for the anti-Abbott advertising to go into overdrive.
 
latest Nielsen poll -

Primary vote : Coal 45/ALP 36 :wtf:

2PP : Coal 52/ALP 48

I don't give a rats what the bookies' odds are saying - with a primary vote that low, the ALP can't win, and the punters backing them are going to do their dough.

Stand by for the anti-Abbott advertising to go into overdrive.

If Labor loses this election I think there's gonna be a shitload of blood spilt.

There's obviously people with in the party pissed at the dumping of rudd who're prepared to fuck the party over in the name of vengeance.
 
If the Libs win the next 3 years will be awful. Gurk. If I had money I'd be moving elsewhere.

In other news:

-- Mark Latham is a shitstirrer and a dick.

-- Rudd expends too much bile, has to have gall bladder removed.

-- The Labor people leaking ought to be shafted.
 
-- Mark Latham is a shitstirrer and a dick.

Probably both true, but I have found his election commentary to be the pick of the bunch so far. His Fin Review columns are must reads for political tragics, and give a sharp insight into the mindset of the modern ALP, and its abandonment of principle in favour of polls, and preference for spin over substance.

Marc, I reckon you're right about blood being spilt if (when?) the ALP lose the election. Latham will look like a revered hero of the party in comparison to Rudd!

Another week like last week, and Tony may as well start measuring up the curtains at the lodge.

Latest Newspoll :

ALP 50/Coal 50.

I can't remember an election where so many votes have shifted during the campaign. Only the parties themselves will know if the moves are in the seats that matter, but, on the face of it, the longer the campaign goes, the worse it gets for Labor.
 
-- Mark Latham is a shitstirrer and a dick.

Probably both true, but I have found his election commentary to be the pick of the bunch so far. His Fin Review columns are must reads for political tragics, and give a sharp insight into the mindset of the modern ALP, and its abandonment of principle in favour of polls, and preference for spin over substance.

Marc, I reckon you're right about blood being spilt if (when?) the ALP lose the election. Latham will look like a revered hero of the party in comparison to Rudd!

Another week like last week, and Tony may as well start measuring up the curtains at the lodge.

Latest Newspoll :

ALP 50/Coal 50.

I can't remember an election where so many votes have shifted during the campaign. Only the parties themselves will know if the moves are in the seats that matter, but, on the face of it, the longer the campaign goes, the worse it gets for Labor.

Just reading the report on Newspoll on the Australian's website and I think that Abbott is taking a leaf from lying rodent and using "illegal immigrants" as a wedge issue and relying on an underlying current of racism and xenophobia - basically a repeat of the 2001 election.

And interesting comparison would be the poll figures leading up to the 1998 election. Howard won with 49.2% of the 2pp vote because while Labor picked up more votes, many of those were in seats it already held but he nearly became a won term wonder.

The other thing is that Labor lead the polls opinion polls prior to the various elections that Howard won, in 2 of 3 categories - primary and 2pp never on preferred P.M. Gillard is strong here and that could be the one thing saves labor's bacon.
 
We'll find out soon enough I suppose, but with these things, the trend is your friend. Going by Newspoll, dissatisfaction with Gillard is now 40% and climbing - up 11% in a fortnight.

The strategy was to sneak back in on the wave of Gillard's "popularity" : it's not working, people seem to go colder on her every day, hence today's drivel about "seeing the real Julia from now on".

The ALP are hurtling towards defeat, and they know it : http://i.imgur.com/6rl3L.jpg

Labor's John Howard impersonation on the asylum seeker issue, and its craven climate change non-policy seem to have stopped their campaign stone dead. They have the exact same problem they had with Rudd : their progressive voters are fleeing them in droves, and conservative voters quaking in their boots about the country being overrun by boat people are always going to vote Liberal anyway.

The only way out for them now is to try and scare the pants off everyone about Abbott by unleashing the smear campaign from hell.
 
Seems the tobacco lobby is also getting jumping into to support the coalition by running attack ads on Labor because of it's push to plain package for cigarretes with a big does of FUD (after all how many smokers really care about the packaging - they go in and they just ask for their brand and type).

Abbott is going to have some tough questions to answer given that Liberal Party strategists and Howard government advisers.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/08/04/2972779.htm?section=justin

The big tobacco companies are fighting back against the Government's plans to introduce plain cigarette packaging by funding small retailers in a massive advertising campaign timed to coincide with the final weeks of the election campaign.
The Alliance of Australian Retailers (AAR) has taken out full page advertisements in tomorrow's papers criticising the plan, which they argue will hurt small business and lead to job losses.
The Daily Telegraph is reporting that the $5 million campaign has been devised by former Liberal Party strategists and Howard government advisers.
The newly-formed AAR has 19,000 members representing corner stores, petrol stations, and newsagents.
 
I'm sure to be in the minority on this, but I think these Chaser election specials have been pretty stale.

Covering elections has never been their forte - the pollies figured out long ago that the best way to avoid a headline when they run into these guys is to patronisingly giggle along till they can reach the safety of the car. The days of Latham whacking people with baseball bats are long over.

That said, the Penrith electorate visit was bloody hilarious and frightening too. Yes, these are the people who this election is being poll-tested and pitched to, and will who ultimately decide its outcome. :eek:
 
Yeah, that was a bit of a worry. I'm in favour of one man, one vote, but sometimes, you do wonder.
 
I like it better than the "war". There were some parts which really not that funny. The Penrith jokes were good. Plus love the little twitters (espec the Richard Ashcroft one from Splendour and him walking off stage)

Still think their best stuff is CNNNN
 
That said, the Penrith electorate visit was bloody hilarious and frightening too. Yes, these are the people who this election is being poll-tested and pitched to, and will who ultimately decide its outcome. :eek:

It was hardly balanced reporting so I don't know why you would find it frightening at all.
 
Because the major parties tailor their messages to appeal to the prejudices and attitudes of the electors in the two dozen Sydney and Qld seats that will decide this election.

A voter in my electorate gets no bang for their buck in their reps vote - hell, our local member doesn't even have a website!

The majors poll the marginals nightly, and that is why you have seen Labor's lurch to the right on boat people, and we were treated to the ridiculous spectacle of the member for Lindsay (Penrith) on board a naval vessel in DARWIN with Gillard supervising border patrols, as if to reassure Penrith folk that when the refugees invade the Napean, he'll be ready to repel the hordes.

Not exactly a ringing endorsement for compulsory voting.

Anyway, it looks as though the ALP are turning to Rudd to try and save them. Yep, the guy they knifed just six weeks ago is to be their saviour. These are strange, strange days.

Oh, and speaking of knifing, In a truly surreal moment, on my way home tonight I ended up sharing a lift with Senator Mark Arbib in the city. He was on the phone, laughing his head off. Maybe he knows something that Newspoll doesn't.
 
^ Fair enough.

Loving the new Liberal ads. "Gillard has been in the top job for a month and instantly hasn't solved the "boat people problem" or paid off all the debt, she must be shit!"

Looks like the Libs will dump the Internet filter...wow, a Liberal policy I'm for. They could win my (pointless) vote yet!
 
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^ Fair enough.

Loving the new Liberal ads. "Gillard has been in the top job for a month and instantly hasn't solved the "boat people problem" or paid off all the debt, she must be shit!"

Looks like the Libs will dump the Internet filter...wow, a Liberal policy I'm for. They could win my (pointless) vote yet!

But why has Hockey come out and said it now why not Abbott?

I wonder Hockey is talking out of school and just dug a hole for Abbott?
 
^ I was actually listening to Triple J when he said that. It was probably the fact Hockey was on Triple J and that the audience would be quite receptive to this news.
 
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