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Sherlock - BBC ONE & HD - Sunday 25th

- Mycroft. I knew it must be him not Moriarty as soon as he diverted the CCTV cameras, plus the British Civil Service uniform he wore, but it was great payoff to have it confirmed at the end
"British Civil Service uniform"? wasn't it just a three piece suit?
 
Sherlock Holmes modernisation
W.T.F. :klingon:


Yeah, that's my reaction as well. There are certain things that should stay the way they are. I mean, you change the timeline of Sherlock Holmes, and you make it just an ordinary detective show, since a big part of who Holmes is, is the time period.


Nonsense...and in Moffat's own words, I'll counter that narrow vision:

"Conan Doyle's stories were never about frock coats and gas light; they're about brilliant detection, dreadful villains and blood-curdling crimes – and frankly, to hell with the crinoline. Other detectives have cases, Sherlock Holmes has adventures, and that's what matters."

At first when I heard of the show, I was disappointed it was NOT a continuation of the BBC/PBS period series, but now I am GLAD! This turned out really well.

Whoever mentioned Downey as this generation's Sherlock Holmes is nuts. Give me a break...the movie was a decent comedy but not much else.

RAMA
 
I watched this last night, thought it was fantastic. The BBC have done a very deft job here bringing the setting into the modern day but keeping the spirit of the books 100% alive IMO.

I hope they don't do a 60 minute series though, I think this works excellently in the format they have it, I worry that a 60 minute series would not give it the time it needs to develop each story to the level we have seen here, not without splitting everything into 2 part episodes or more.

Although, what I would add is that they reportedly spent £800,000 on shooting an unaired pilot for this, which they plan to shelve. I'd like to see this made available, not broadcast necessarily, but made available on iplayer maybe for people that are interested. The BBC didn't pay all of it I warrant, but I bet a good chunk of that is license payers money, my money, therefore I want to see it :D
 
I watched this last night, thought it was fantastic. The BBC have done a very deft job here bringing the setting into the modern day but keeping the spirit of the books 100% alive IMO.

I hope they don't do a 60 minute series though, I think this works excellently in the format they have it, I worry that a 60 minute series would not give it the time it needs to develop each story to the level we have seen here, not without splitting everything into 2 part episodes or more.

Although, what I would add is that they reportedly spent £800,000 on shooting an unaired pilot for this, which they plan to shelve. I'd like to see this made available, not broadcast necessarily, but made available on iplayer maybe for people that are interested. The BBC didn't pay all of it I warrant, but I bet a good chunk of that is license payers money, my money, therefore I want to see it :D


As was said earlier in the thread, it seems to have been certified for the DVD release so I'm sure it will get out there some how, and that will give us the chance to see how it would have worked in 60 minute format, since the original version was a one off 60 minute episode.
 
Just seen this, hopefully it's true.

The BBC is eager to make more episodes of Sherlock, it has been revealed.

The modern-day re-imagining of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's literary detective attracted an impressive 7.5m viewers on its launch last Sunday, and BBC bosses are apparently keen to produce a longer series of the show.

"To say the top brass are made up by the Holmes ratings is an understatement," a source told The Sun.

"They really want to do more so the question is not really if, but how and when can we do them."
 
Sherlock Holmes modernisation
W.T.F. :klingon:


Yeah, that's my reaction as well. There are certain things that should stay the way they are. I mean, you change the timeline of Sherlock Holmes, and you make it just an ordinary detective show, since a big part of who Holmes is, is the time period.

AMEN!! I was always disappointed with the Basil Rathbone series because of this.. While he was a brilliant Holmes, I couldn't get past the use of cars and other modern things..
 
I watched it with my wife...who just recently read her first Sherlock Holmes story.

She LOVED it. She was totally hooked (though ahead with the taxi thing). She wants more now.

She's not normally interested in procedurals or crime shows, but she really really liked it.

It was great!
 
I enjoyed it quiet a bit I must say and it's a nice modern take on the series and more Sherlock than some other time settings done. Not entirely sold on Benedict Cumberbatch. Something a bit too manly and not flamboyant enough.
 
Re: the points people have made about the cabbie and the pills... that's all from Conan Doyle's original book - the killer's a cabbie who's dying, he offers his victims a choice of two pills, etc. The major difference is his motivation - in the original he's seeking revenge on the men who killed his would-be fiancee, and, as he puts it, is confident that God would not allow the evil men who've escaped legal justice to pick the safe pill.
 
- Mycroft. I knew it must be him not Moriarty as soon as he diverted the CCTV cameras, plus the British Civil Service uniform he wore, but it was great payoff to have it confirmed at the end
"British Civil Service uniform"? wasn't it just a three piece suit?

The 3-piece suit plus the brolly IS the stereotypical historical British Civil Service uniform (actually historically it would have been stroller plus striped trousers, but you get the point). All that was missing was a bowler to flag the character up as being in some sort of governmental role. :lol:
 
- Mycroft. I knew it must be him not Moriarty as soon as he diverted the CCTV cameras, plus the British Civil Service uniform he wore, but it was great payoff to have it confirmed at the end
"British Civil Service uniform"? wasn't it just a three piece suit?

The 3-piece suit plus the brolly IS the stereotypical historical British Civil Service uniform (actually historically it would have been stroller plus striped trousers, but you get the point). All that was missing was a bowler to flag the character up as being in some sort of governmental role. :lol:

ah, gotcha. Thanks! :)
 
Nonsense...and in Moffat's own words, I'll counter that narrow vision:

Narrow vision? It was a product of its time. Everything he did, and everything he used to help him come up with his deductions, such as the technology available at the time, made him the character he is. He was as much a part of the world as the world was a part of him. Everything about it was steeped in the era it was in. You wouldn't do the same thing with Lord of the Rings, would you?
 
Nonsense...and in Moffat's own words, I'll counter that narrow vision:

Narrow vision? It was a product of its time. Everything he did, and everything he used to help him come up with his deductions, such as the technology available at the time, made him the character he is. He was as much a part of the world as the world was a part of him. Everything about it was steeped in the era it was in. You wouldn't do the same thing with Lord of the Rings, would you?

While in one sense I agree with you, I have to hand it to Moffat. The first episode really did feel like Sherlock Holmes. All the elements were there, the character felt true to Doyle's books, and the atmosphere was very much Sherlock Holmes, lack of horses and fog be damned. It really did work incredibly well as an adaptation.
 
Nonsense...and in Moffat's own words, I'll counter that narrow vision:

Narrow vision? It was a product of its time. Everything he did, and everything he used to help him come up with his deductions, such as the technology available at the time, made him the character he is. He was as much a part of the world as the world was a part of him. Everything about it was steeped in the era it was in. You wouldn't do the same thing with Lord of the Rings, would you?

Lord Of The Rings is a fantasy set in a different world, Sherlock Holmes on the other hand is set in the contemporary world it just happens that the real world of the time is a period piece now, there's no reason it can't be modernised while keeping the character true to their literary counterparts.
 
There's only one thing that worries me about the latter day setting. Right now, the phrase 'No shit' is a common colloquialism, which it certainly wasn't in the 19th Century.

I just hope that they are able to resist temptation!
 
^ Good point!

"It was him! He's the murderer!"
"No shit, Sherlock..."
"No, I'm Dr Watson."
"No, I was drawing a sarcastic parallel between your rather obvious deduction and the inspired ones of the literary......character.......ummm........"
 
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