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Amaris
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Actually, Flo Rida ("Flow Rider" based on his skill as a rapper, and a play on the name of his home state) is a pretty good name.
Don't know why you should hate Ke$ha?
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Actually, Flo Rida ("Flow Rider" based on his skill as a rapper, and a play on the name of his home state) is a pretty good name.
Rii
Rear Admiral
The guy wrote a freaking dissertation on a 3-minute pop song. And managed to cover everything from professional wrestling to political rhetoric in the process. It's absurd; and I linked it on the off chance that others might find it as baffling and entertaining as I did. In any case it just makes for more traffic for his blog.
Geri Halliwell's cover of 'It's Raining Men'.
I figured as much, but the question still stands.
Rii
Rear Admiral
^That song is amongst the worst of the lot! Especially her version!
This:
Is misandry?
In any case Ke$ha's thing is merely an inversion of the practices of many male rap lyricists. To the extent that it's part of a broader musical trend, I'd suggest that it's an empowerment thing, a rejection of traditional notions of female passivity, 'good behaviour' and so on; embracing agency.
I think such assertiveness bothers men on some level because of the cultural awareness that, on average, women are more selective regarding their sexual partners than men are. More often than not, they're the ones holding the keys. And this is not something one cares to be reminded of.
And to continue into dangerous territory: I think men find it irksome to be reminded of this in part because for the most part they can take the keys, but shouldn't. And so such sentiments are received (at an unconscious level) as akin to a child taunting a dog. It's ungrateful.
Is misandry?
No, not really, just a little bit too idealised. It doesn't need to 'rain' men, there are men everywhere, we're just not all 'perfect' that's all.
What bothers me about Kesha's lyrics is the reduction of men down to a single body part. In no way am I defending the way some of her male colleagues speak about women, but if we all stoop to that level then we all just living in the gutter.
However, Lily Allen poisoning her boyfriend, having him assaulted and then destroying his livelihood isn't really about female empowerment - nor is her complaining that her little brother masturbates. Pink pushing a guy down some stairs and then torturing him for the rest of the video isn't really about female empowerment. Lady Gaga murdering a guy isn't really about female empowerment.
That leaves us with Beyonce, or should we call her "Sasha Fierce" ? Yeah, love, if you were a boy you'd be a nameless backing dancer in some show in Branson, Missouri.
Dusty Ayres
Commodore
So the stupid motherfucker couldn't buy an iPod and the device with which to hook it to his car radio, and then listen to what he and his wife like musically? Please.
What this is is the bleating of the supposedly liberal but actually libertarian white male (who are a lite version of neoconservatives, IMHO) who's too much in love with Classic Rock for his own good, and can't stand to hear anything else that isn't white-boy rawk for his precious ears. Chalk this one up to racism and an inability to hear anything that isn't rock-an epic cultural, racial, and social fail on all counts. Not that I myself (a 42-year old Afro-Canadian male) love Ke$ha-far from it-but she's not that bad, and she's a perfect example of how black music has been accepted by whites, just like rock and roll was decades ago.
P.S. I just read the rest of the article, and I can see that he's not so unhip after all, and he's also got a point.
So the stupid motherfucker couldn't buy an iPod and the device with which to hook it to his car radio, and then listen to what he and his wife like musically? Please.
What this is is the bleating of the supposedly liberal but actually libertarian white male (who are a lite version of neoconservatives, IMHO) who's too much in love with Classic Rock for his own good, and can't stand to hear anything else that isn't white-boy rawk for his precious ears. Chalk this one up to racism and an inability to hear anything that isn't rock-an epic cultural, racial, and social fail on all counts. Not that I myself (a 42-year old Afro-Canadian male) love Ke$ha-far from it-but she's not that bad, and she's a perfect example of how black music has been accepted by whites, just like rock and roll was decades ago.
P.S. I just read the rest of the article, and I can see that he's not so unhip after all, and he's also got a point.
Wait, so now people who don't like Kesha's music are racists?
Did I just wander in to TNZ by accident?
So the stupid motherfucker couldn't buy an iPod and the device with which to hook it to his car radio, and then listen to what he and his wife like musically? Please.
What this is is the bleating of the supposedly liberal but actually libertarian white male (who are a lite version of neoconservatives, IMHO) who's too much in love with Classic Rock for his own good, and can't stand to hear anything else that isn't white-boy rawk for his precious ears. Chalk this one up to racism and an inability to hear anything that isn't rock-an epic cultural, racial, and social fail on all counts. Not that I myself (a 42-year old Afro-Canadian male) love Ke$ha-far from it-but she's not that bad, and she's a perfect example of how black music has been accepted by whites, just like rock and roll was decades ago.
P.S. I just read the rest of the article, and I can see that he's not so unhip after all, and he's also got a point.
Wait, so now people who don't like Kesha's music are racists?
Did I just wander in to TNZ by accident?So the stupid motherfucker couldn't buy an iPod and the device with which to hook it to his car radio, and then listen to what he and his wife like musically? Please.
What this is is the bleating of the supposedly liberal but actually libertarian white male (who are a lite version of neoconservatives, IMHO) who's too much in love with Classic Rock for his own good, and can't stand to hear anything else that isn't white-boy rawk for his precious ears. Chalk this one up to racism and an inability to hear anything that isn't rock-an epic cultural, racial, and social fail on all counts. Not that I myself (a 42-year old Afro-Canadian male) love Ke$ha-far from it-but she's not that bad, and she's a perfect example of how black music has been accepted by whites, just like rock and roll was decades ago.
P.S. I just read the rest of the article, and I can see that he's not so unhip after all, and he's also got a point.
Wait, so now people who don't like Kesha's music are racists?
More like the twilight zone.
This. I'll admit to having Tik Tok in my workout playlist. It's upbeat and catchy. But Kesha (I refuse to use the dollar sign) is fairly obnoxious.
Rii
Rear Admiral
I take every opportunity to use Ke$ha's name specifically because of the dollar sign.
I was watching a music video with a remix of Tik Tok in it and I kinda liked it. Maybe it was how it was remixed, maybe it was the context, maybe it was the sprinkling of Monty Python at the end. But I can't stand the original version here in this thread or anything else posted so far.
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Amaris
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Tik Tok is great when you're doing cardio.
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Lord Garth
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Here I was prepared to expect the worst thing I ever heard, based on the comments I read.
Nope. Sorry. Nothing wrong with the way it sounds. Dare I say that I prefer the Ke$ha's music to Gaga's?
Nope. Sorry. Nothing wrong with the way it sounds. Dare I say that I prefer the Ke$ha's music to Gaga's?
Well, he is from Florida.
My friend (who likes rap) pointed out to me that she could really do without the Lils, Youngs, and States (before that, I didn't get that Flo Rida = Florida, sadly enough).
Lord Garth, Gaga (somehow) manages to have more credibility, but that doesn't necessarily have to be worth anything (it is pop music afterall).
^ I was wondering about that earlier. How are people trashing Ke$ha, yet heaping praise on Lady Gaga.
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Lord Garth
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It's analogous to Madonna and Britney Spears.
I think Lady Gaga became so big because she was the first breakout of the new decade. Technically 2008 or '9, but no need to split hairs.
I think Lady Gaga became so big because she was the first breakout of the new decade. Technically 2008 or '9, but no need to split hairs.