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NHL Offseason 2010 discussion

I don't understand the hate towards these deals that are being signed by guys like Kovalchuk.

The GM's are just doing the best they can with what they have, sure it's sneaky but not technically illegal, and at the end of the day it just enables you to put a better, more competitive product on the ice.
 
It's cap circumvention, though. Everyone knows that Kovalchuk will not be playing when he's 44, just as Hossa won't be playing when he's 41. Basically, retirement prior to the expiration of the contract is clearly an integral part of these negotiations and offers, and the only reason the NHL can't come down on them (yet) is because it's rather difficult to prove intent. The problem with saying something like, "Well, it's similar to the other contracts, only five years longer!" is that GMs just get more and more brazen, until you get ridiculous contracts that no side has any intention or desire to fulfill ... oh wait, we're already there with Kovalchuk. The flipside is that it fucks over every other team that actually plays by the rules and signs players to contracts with honest cap hits. This isn't a matter of teams being able to field a competitive product -- it's about players saying, "Fuck your salary cap, I still want my massive payday."

The point is that the cap is being circumvented and the door is open for anyone who wants to do it until the NHL grows a sack and clamps down on it. That, or we'll just get another work stoppage when the NHL moves to close this loophole in the next CBA and the NHLPA decides to raise holy hell. A strike is looking pretty likely in 2012, with the momentum that Eric Lindros and his fellow hardliners in the NHLPA have been generating; they're getting ready to hire Donald Fehr (who kicked the dogshit out of MLB and made the MLBPA retardedly powerful) as their executive director and go to the mattresses over the cap.

Let's look at it this way:

Last 6 years of Lecavalier's contract: $35 million
Last 6 years of Zetterberg's contract: $27.35 million
Last 6 years of Pronger's contract: $26.85 million
Last 6 years of Luongo's contract: $20.428 million
Last 6 years of Keith's contract: $19.2 million
Last 6 years of Franzen's contract: $17.5 million
Last 6 years of Hossa's contract: $15.9 million
Last 6 years of Kovalchuk's contract: $3.5 million.

Basically, Lamoriello decided to get cute and add on a shit-ton of years at $550,000 each. It's amazing how ballsy he is. But all of these contracts, with the possible exception of Pronger (whose contract is just hilarious), have years tacked on with the sole intention of lowering the overall cap hit. Circumvention is circumvention, and this contract trend is not good for the NHL. It's perversely hilarious that we missed a year of hockey and did serious permanent damage to the game as a whole to create this CBA, which is turning out to be as effective as first-year 0% APR in preventing another rapid descent into overspending.

I didn't see Kovalchuk fitting well in NJ a few months ago, and was mostly proven right.

10 goals and 17 assists in 27 games is "not fitting well?"
 
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That's actually a damn decent explanation - especially how it relates to the expiry of the current CBA and potential for another useless stoppage. I tip my hat to you.
 
I didn't see Kovalchuk fitting well in NJ a few months ago, and was mostly proven right.

10 goals and 17 assists in 27 games is "not fitting well?"
Meaningless. They were already assured of home ice advantage in the post-season. They got him for the playoffs. How'd that work out for them? Oh, right. They traded away Oduya, Bergfors, Cormier, and a 1st round pick for a chance to win one whole game against the titanic Brian Boucher. What a fine fit, indeed. They could have been better off trading all of those players to Boston for Miroslav Satan. (Hell, he scored more than twice the number of playoff goals as Kovy. :lol:)
 
You're moving the goalposts. You said Kovalchuk didn't fit in well in New Jersey's system, and then ignored 27 points in 27 games and went on a tangent about how the Devils didn't beat the Flyers. That's an indictment of the team, not the player.
 
I bet nothing would have happened if Lamoriello didn't actually come out to the papers and say, "Yeah, it's a bullshit contract and it should be fixed in the next CBA, but I'm going to exploit the loophole until it's fixed."

Lamoriello said he "absolutely" rolled his eyes when the Islanders signed Rick DiPietro(notes) to a 15-year contract in 2006 and when Washington signed Alex Ovechkin(notes) to a 13-year contract in 2008. He also said he "absolutely" rolled his eyes about the Kovalchuk's contract terms.

Oops.

In any event, Kovalchuk isn't going to fuck off to Russia. He'll probably just go to the Kings.
 
That's an indictment of the team, not the player.
That's an indictment on a rental player for whom NJ sacrificed an enormous chunk of their future for the sole purpose of going deep in the 2010 playoffs. Did Ilya Kovalchuk score a lot of points in all but meaningless regular season games against bottom feeder teams? Yes. Did he live up to even the lowest expectations of him in the playoffs? No.

Kovalchuk does not, did not, and will not play strong defensive hockey. He's a player suited for aggressive offensive teams, not for Lemaire and his trap. Once the playoffs rolled around, he only really proved useful on the PP. (And was hardly a game breaker there, either.) Not the way I'd describe a player that was a good fit on his team.
 
I think the biggest problem with Frolov is his inconsistency which I believe points to a certain lack of work ethic. Sometimes it seems to me like he only shows up to play when he feels like it. I think most teams would prefer a guy that might not produce quite as well, but gives his all every single night. I do have to admit I'm not quite as familiar with Poni, so I'm not sure how he compares to Frolov though.
 
In my opinion, Poni is the same kind of player. The only really decent years he had was playing on Mats Sundin's wing.
 
In my opinion, Poni is the same kind of player. The only really decent years he had was playing on Mats Sundin's wing.

Yeah, he can be good at times, but he'll also disappear for long stretches. He was always a frustrating sort of player.
 
Antti Niemi just picked up $2.75 million in arbitration. The Blackhawks have 48 hours to sign him, trade him or walk away. A few sources are reporting that if the team bails on Niemi, they have a handshake deal in place to sign Marty Turco for one year at $1.5 million.
 
I think it was a good move to walk away from Niemi. Sure he won the cup, but this was his first good year and he really got saved by the scoring powers of his team.

I don't think he's worth 3 mil.
 
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