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The worst thing EVER, plus a book on John Hughes and '80s teen movies.

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Check this out... or don't. I mean, you really shouldn't, probably; it could really ruin your day. Tell you what: just email it to someone you can't stand without even watching it. Their undying resentment will let you know that whatever it was, it made them feel like punching a puppy. Maybe they did, even. But for Pete's sake, don't click over yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImrdW7Kewrw


... And if you do watch it, and feel a dark blanket of despair smothering you, click over here for some much-needed relief.



And, so as not to have a one-note gag thread, I'm almost done reading You Couldn't Ignore Me If You Tried: The Brat Pack, John Hughes, and Their Impact on a Generation, the excellent brand-new account of the John Hughes 80s teen movies. It's got great, in-depth and insider-baseball-juicy interviews from pretty much everyone involved except for Hughes himself, though the author seems to quote every public media statement he gave before Salingering. My only complaint is that author Susannah Gora only gives Weird Science a handful of passing mentions, and fails to note the TV adaptation (or that of Ferris Bueller, for that matter), dismissing it in the introduction as a minor work that doesn't live up to the others merit-wise or in memory. That may well be true, but a few paragraphs couldn't have hurt. I hate to play the gender card, but can't help but wondering if that factored into her disinterest, since she writes several pages on the two endings to Pretty in Pink alone (which is great stuff, don't get me wrong).

In short: a highly recommended read if you're fond if the Hughes teen movies, St. Elmo's Fire and Say Anything.
 
Re: The worst thing EVER, plus a book on John Hughes and '80s teen mov

Check this out... or don't. I mean, you really shouldn't, probably; it could really ruin your day. Tell you what: just email it to someone you can't stand without even watching it. Their undying resentment will let you know that whatever it was, it made them feel like punching a puppy. Maybe they did, even. But for Pete's sake, don't click over yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImrdW7Kewrw

Not the worst thing ever. Just stupid and pointless.
 
Re: The worst thing EVER, plus a book on John Hughes and '80s teen mov

"It's not only the worst movie ever, it is the worst THING ever." - Michael J. Nelson on "Batman and Robin"
 
Re: The worst thing EVER, plus a book on John Hughes and '80s teen mov

I just watched St. Elmo's Fire for the first time this past weekend (I was only born in 1986). It hasn't dated well...I found it really melodramatic and confusing in that 80s sort of way. The fact that no one comments on the one chick's cocaine habit was more than a little bothersome to me, having been brought up with the constant message that cocaine is one of the worst drugs you can use and it is a sign you have reached rock bottom. And what's up with no one seeming to care about the stalker, including the woman being stalked herself??? If he had shown up at my ski cabin I would have called the police, not invited him in for cocoa! Rob Lowe's character is a douchebag, why we would want the sweet blonde girl to be with him? And then everyone freaks out over a girl rocking back and forth in an empty apartment. Dudes, chill out, that is not a life or death situation. It all just didn't make any sense!!

Anyway, yeah, that clip was sad.
 
Re: The worst thing EVER, plus a book on John Hughes and '80s teen mov

For some reason when I was a teenager I went to a movie theater alone to see that movie. Don't remember why. I don't think it was half bad though.
 
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I just watched St. Elmo's Fire for the first time this past weekend (I was only born in 1986). It hasn't dated well...I found it really melodramatic and confusing in that 80s sort of way. The fact that no one comments on the one chick's cocaine habit was more than a little bothersome to me, having been brought up with the constant message that cocaine is one of the worst drugs you can use and it is a sign you have reached rock bottom. And what's up with no one seeming to care about the stalker, including the woman being stalked herself??? If he had shown up at my ski cabin I would have called the police, not invited him in for cocoa! Rob Lowe's character is a douchebag, why we would want the sweet blonde girl to be with him? And then everyone freaks out over a girl rocking back and forth in an empty apartment. Dudes, chill out, that is not a life or death situation. It all just didn't make any sense!!
I've never bothered to watch it. It's not a John Hughes movie, so... :p
 
Re: The worst thing EVER, plus a book on John Hughes and '80s teen mov

Check this out... or don't. I mean, you really shouldn't, probably; it could really ruin your day. Tell you what: just email it to someone you can't stand without even watching it. Their undying resentment will let you know that whatever it was, it made them feel like punching a puppy. Maybe they did, even. But for Pete's sake, don't click over yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImrdW7Kewrw

Not the worst thing ever. Just stupid and pointless.

I was going to say "Stupidest thing ever", so yeah.
 
Re: The worst thing EVER, plus a book on John Hughes and '80s teen mov

When someone says "stupid and pointless" and "John Hughes" in the same thread the only thing that springs to mind is Ally Sheedy's makeover in The Breakfast Club.

She looked better before, damn it! :mad:
 
Re: The worst thing EVER, plus a book on John Hughes and '80s teen mov

I just watched St. Elmo's Fire for the first time this past weekend (I was only born in 1986). It hasn't dated well...I found it really melodramatic and confusing in that 80s sort of way. The fact that no one comments on the one chick's cocaine habit was more than a little bothersome to me, having been brought up with the constant message that cocaine is one of the worst drugs you can use and it is a sign you have reached rock bottom.

Well, in the 80's when that movie was made, coke was not thought of in those terms. Yes, we knew it was potentially addictive...but much more so if you smoked it...and I believe that she pretty much only snorted it in that film (been a while since I've seen it - sorry if I am mistaken there). Further, you have to remember that those characters (and actors) were NOT born in 1986, but in the early to mid 1960's...which meant they went to high school during the mid to late 70's, a time when there was no such thing as 'safe sex' and 'the war on drugs'. This generation? (of which I was one, by the way) We grew up with the mantra of "Sex, drugs, and Rock n' Roll!!!" being drilled into our psyche by the slightly older generation we grew up idolizing. Bottom line: It was a different time. And in my view as someone who is of the age to have related to that time and those characters, it wasn't a 'better' or 'worse' time. Just different.

But in the 1980's, coke use was by no means a 'sign that you had reached rock bottom'. :lol: In fact, it was really more of a glamor drug at that time than anything else. It was 'the drug of choice' to a generation coming of age in a decade that was all about money and glamor and Feeling Good. Which was sort of why you had that character involved in it. It wasn't a drug that you associated with down & out junkies on the street - it was a drug you associated with trendy clubs and glamorous rock stars. With money and success.

Now, I'm not gonna sit here and extol the virtues of cocaine to you or anything. But I'll be frank - I did coke in the 1980's, nearly every time I went clubbing or to a rock concert with my friends. And I came out just fine. Graduated Magna Cum Laude from university...got a good job out of college in one of the big accounting firms, etc. And never got hooked on that, or any other drug. Had one friend who died due to drug addiction...but it wasn't to coke, but to heroin, and he actually died in a rehab center, due to a hospital error - not due to anything he took that he got off the street.

I'm not saying that drug use is okay. But what I am saying is that it did have a place in the context of the 1980's...and that coke use in particular was not given the same stigma then as you are ascribing to it now. And St. Elmo's Fire really needs to be viewed in that context. :)
 
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When someone says "stupid and pointless" and "John Hughes" in the same thread the only thing that springs to mind is Ally Sheedy's makeover in The Breakfast Club.

She looked better before, damn it! :mad:
I agree. I'll take her over Molly Ringwald any day!
 
Re: The worst thing EVER, plus a book on John Hughes and '80s teen mov

I just watched St. Elmo's Fire for the first time this past weekend (I was only born in 1986). It hasn't dated well...I found it really melodramatic and confusing in that 80s sort of way. The fact that no one comments on the one chick's cocaine habit was more than a little bothersome to me, having been brought up with the constant message that cocaine is one of the worst drugs you can use and it is a sign you have reached rock bottom. And what's up with no one seeming to care about the stalker, including the woman being stalked herself??? If he had shown up at my ski cabin I would have called the police, not invited him in for cocoa! Rob Lowe's character is a douchebag, why we would want the sweet blonde girl to be with him? And then everyone freaks out over a girl rocking back and forth in an empty apartment. Dudes, chill out, that is not a life or death situation. It all just didn't make any sense!!
I've never bothered to watch it. It's not a John Hughes movie, so... :p

True enough, but it is a Brat Pack movie...which to those of us who were interested back then, was in some ways more important. At the time those movies came out, the target audience was much more interested in Demi Moore and Rob Lowe and Emilio Estevez than they were in John Hughes himself. ;) No different from today - the actors are often the draw.
 
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