Whatever happened to Quo'nos?

[Smellincoffee]

The Undiscovered Country: Praxis is destroyed. A Starfleet officer states "To put it succinctly, the Klingon Empire has fifty years of life left."

Spock contributes:

Two months ago, a Federation starship monitored an explosion on the Klingon moon, Praxis. We believe it was the result of overmining and insufficient safety precautions. The moon's decimation means a deadly pollution of their ozone: They will have depleted their supply of oxygen in 50 Earth years. Due to the enormous size of their military budget the Klingons do not have the means to deal with this catastrophe.

So...what happened? Quo'Nos is still around, still livable in the 24th century: TNG and DS9 characters reference it from time to time, if memory serves. Following the cessation of hostilities, did the Klingons manage to restore their home planet's ozone layer, or did they come up with another techy solution? Has any novel explored this, or has any character ever referred to Quo'nos' post-TUC fate?

 

[Finn]

^Um.. it was resolved in the movie. all that shit they went through and that conference they had in the end prevented the planet from becoming uninhabitable. That was the point of the peace talks. In other words, the Federation helped the Klingons recover.

 

[T'Girl]

I think the implication was that Quo'nos was damaged by the explosion and had fifty years left,
if they didn't do anything. This is why the Klingons wanted to scale back their fleet expenditures,
so they could reallocate the money elsewhere.

 

[EnsignRicky]

Last I heard they're still around, but personally I think Subway tastes much better.

 

[Nerys Myk]

It got better.

 

[RandyS]

Last I heard they're still around, but personally I think Subway tastes much better.

Um....What?

 

[Nerys Myk]

Quiznos

 

[EnsignRicky]

I figured at least one person would get it or at least one person wouldn't.

I was both right.

 

[The Wormhole]

Last I heard they're still around, but personally I think Subway tastes much better.

Mmm, toasty.

[Insert BSG lesbian joke here.]

 

[FormerLurker]

I thought it was "One month ago..."

Either way, doesn't that throw off the timeline in the Voyager episode?

 

[RandyS]

I figured at least one person would get it or at least one person wouldn't.

I was both right.

I'm still confused. What's Quiznos?

 

[Timo]

Either way, doesn't that throw off the timeline in the Voyager episode?

Both the timeline, and the basic concept. In the movie, Sulu did not dash to the rescue of our heroes on short notice. He could barely be bothered to get up from the bed and give them the address for the secret conference two months into the crisis.

Of course, "Flashback" was just a dream sequence anyway, and Tuvok's feverish vision may have strayed really far from the true events, confusing times, places, and actions. For all we know, none of it ever happened - after all, the very plot point there was that the weird space disease made people remember exciting and dangerous things that had never happened to them in reality.

The messed-up timetable is one thing that could result from it all being a dream. The fact that Janice Rand suddenly goes from junior officer to a Lieutenant Commander is another. The fact that Dmitri Valtane dies is obviously a dream falsehood, because he's alive and well at the end of the movie - that's something we'd expect from the disease, which made people see death where there was none. But the idea that Tuvok would sleep with his uniform on in a bunk bed shared by Valtane (who suddenly is a junior officer now) must be mere delusion, which probably means that Tuvok being Rand's tea slave was a delusion or a fantasy as well...

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Pauln6]

Rand gets promoted and demoted with every appearance. I think she must just be really insubordinate.

 

[Anwar]

And Valtene didn't die so much as the virus think he was dying and thus jump to what it thought was its escape. That he survived was fortunate.

 

[Admiral Shran]

I think the implication was that Quo'nos was damaged by the explosion and had fifty years left,
if they didn't do anything. This is why the Klingons wanted to scale back their fleet expenditures,
so they could reallocate the money elsewhere.

This. They were able to save the planet by reducing military expenditures vis-a-vis the Federation. The Federation also did what they could to aid the Klingons.

I figured at least one person would get it or at least one person wouldn't.

I was both right.

I'm still confused. What's Quiznos?

A fast food restaurant that serves subs, like Subway, except they only serve hot subs. It's pronounced very similiar to Quo'nos.

And I perfer Subway, so hopefully Quiznos' ovens explode.

 

[EnsignRicky]

I figured at least one person would get it or at least one person wouldn't.

I was both right.

I'm still confused. What's Quiznos?

Basically it's a sandwich shop, like Subway. For all I know it could be an American or even specifically an east coast business. I guess the mileage on the punchline may vary.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I figured at least one person would get it or at least one person wouldn't.

I was both right.

I'm still confused. What's Quiznos?

Basically it's a sandwich shop, like Subway. For all I know it could be an American or even specifically an east coast business. I guess the mileage on the punchline may vary.

We got them out here in California,too. Looks like they started in Colorado. The map at their site shows locations in Canada, Central America, the UK, Korea, the Middle East and the Caribbean.

And of course the commercials that launched a million nightmares

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZrks-BPeLQ[/yt]

 

[Alidar Jarok]

BTW, the movie never specifically says that Qo'nos is being impacted by the disaster, but it is at least implied.

That being said, the Qo'onos in Enterprise looks dramatically different from the one in TNG. There are two explanations. One, the red, polluted planet in TNG is a stabilized Qo'nos thanks to Federation aid, but still very much destroyed ecologically. Or, alternatively, they moved to a different planet that they decided to also call Qo'nos as a tribute to the first one.

 

[Anwar]

Wasn't Praxis supposed to be the moon of the Klingon homeworld? That massive explosion would have seriously f***ed up the planet.

 

[StarryEyed]

Wasn't Praxis supposed to be the moon of the Klingon homeworld? That massive explosion would have seriously f***ed up the planet.

One would think! But I think they said "a Klingon moon" so maybe it was not orbiting Quo'nos but a gas giant in the system further out.

The part that confused me when I saw the movie for the first was why Quo'nos would be so important to the survival of the Empire. Sure, it's the homeworld so it definitely is culturally important but it's just one planet.