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5x013 The Big Bang (Grading/Discussion) SPOILERS!!

Grade "The Big Bang"

  • Who Da Man?!

    Votes: 112 69.6%

  • Good

    Votes: 34 21.1%

  • Average

    Votes: 7 4.3%

  • Bad

    Votes: 6 3.7%

  • Bring RTD back

    Votes: 2 1.2%
  • Total voters
    161
  • Poll closed .
matthunter said:
cheeseyfatmonkey said:
It's a crap plot point whether it was in Bill and Ted or Doctor Who.
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"Sensible response of the primary characters given they have time-travel capability" does not equal "crap plot point" unless you ENJOY seeing people deliberately and stupidly NOT remembering the blindingly obvious.

But then, you do come from a city that voted for Boris Johnson as Mayor, so perhaps...
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Why the insults?

It's not that sensible to use that as a plot point in a time travel series. Why don't they use it every episode?

The Doctor is in peril but it's ok because a future version will pop in to tell a major supporting character how to solve this week's puzzle.
 
Good.
Handling of the characters was good and a time-travelling story involving the erasure and reboot of the entire universe made sense and had most of its loose ends tie up. It also lacked the melodramatic overload of a RTD finale.
However, its not getting a excellent because the big bad was not only not defeated, he/she wasn't even revealled, this, unlike Rivers storyline, should have been tied up.

Hoping all this mystery they're building up around River means we'll see more of her next year (as a series regular would be nice). So is she married?

Lastly how did Amy end up with such a strong Scottish accent if her parents have such weak ones?
 
Well, Moff just said on confidential that we'll find out River is next season. The horses mouth indeed. Buty,Moff has a running mystery now for the next few years at least.

Well yeah, he did escape too easily, but the fundamental point is, it was fun to watch. I wouldn't have mnded. More time trtavel mind fucks but hey, never mind, least we were all right that it was a different Doc that told amy to remember what he said in Time Of Angels.

Bring on christmas and next spring.

And a fez, love the fez.
 
Loved the episode, even if there is a paradox at work (The Doc told Rory to let the Doc out of the Pandorica, but he had to get out of it in the first place in order to go back and tell Rory to rescue him making the action of telling Rory to Rescue you when your trapped a paradox in and of itself) I don't care, it was an entire league above anything RTD wrote in the past 5 years, especially when you compare it to previous fanwank finales.

I know it might irk some folks, but I rather enjoyed the fact that it wasnt all tied up in a neat little bow at the end, I cant wait for Christmas now!
 
Firstly, I have not read any of the preceding comments for which I apologize. (Although by the time you read this I will have/have done/still am reading them. )
ahem...

Anyway I think that its time to promote the Moff, he has certainly impressed with this fully armed and operational series finale. The good Doctor zipping backwards and forwards in time, a stone Dalek and just who or what is River Song? Plus there is the rather awe inspiring and yet rather terrifying fact that the Tardis explosion kept the Earth going for almost 2000 years.

great stuff but will we ever find out who caused the cracks and the explosion? Can't wait to find out...
 
not sure if all of S5 ever happened, but if you believe Amy could will the Doctor back into being, I do question how she could bring back all of him, even the bits the didnt know. Even if to S5 never happened, pretty sure it did for Amy & Rory, remeber it happening.

that said, if the Doctor was at the heart of the explosion, maybe he was everywhere in the galaxy, the galaxy a tiny bit more Doctor, and Amy willed every bit of him together.

River seemed to have remembered him, but that means not much in the grand scheme of things.

We didnt learn what blows up the TARDIS, "the silence" ? TBH you would think the silence was the universe dying.

In short the whole episode was built on paradox after paradox, the existence of earth, a total fluke.
 
Caleuche said:
However, its not getting a excellent because the big bad was not only not defeated, he/she wasn't even revealled, this, unlike Rivers storyline, should have been tied up.
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Why?

Pretty much every other arc-based show makes a big deal of setting stuff up for the next series... why must Who answer all the questions in 13 episodes?

I'm refreshed to see we still have a mystery for Series Six, to be honest. And the resolution will be better for not wrapping it up in a neat little package this ep. Consider, we now know there's an enemy out there with the power to destroy the TARDIS and control it in flight. Series Six will focus on the Doctor finding out who is after him... WHY did they want to destroy the universe? Presumably they could survive the end of all things... WHO could do that?

Those are questions too big to adequately address in one series finale... better to leave them aside and let the Doctor have his small victory (of saving the whole of Creation... again). ;)
 
I voted good, but I still have a lot of unanswered questions.

There was a lot of rumours that were untrue about this episode going around (Omega).

And if my hubby asks me if Rory was still an Auton one more time...I'm gonna want to lock him in the Pandorica!
 
matthunter said:
Caleuche said:
However, its not getting a excellent because the big bad was not only not defeated, he/she wasn't even revealled, this, unlike Rivers storyline, should have been tied up.
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Why?

Pretty much every other arc-based show makes a big deal of setting stuff up for the next series... why must Who answer all the questions in 13 episodes?

I'm refreshed to see we still have a mystery for Series Six, to be honest. And the resolution will be better for not wrapping it up in a neat little package this ep. Consider, we now know there's an enemy out there with the power to destroy the TARDIS and control it in flight. Series Six will focus on the Doctor finding out who is after him... WHY did they want to destroy the universe? Presumably they could survive the end of all things... WHO could do that?

Those are questions too big to adequately address in one series finale... better to leave them aside and let the Doctor have his small victory (of saving the whole of Creation... again). ;)
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This is true. Having a multi series arc is no bad thing and it will be fun to see how it all ties together.
 
I loved it. It got a little confusing in parts, and there's still that issue of it not being solved, but it was brilliant stuff.

The bit with Rory standing guard for thousands of years was brilliant, and they really handled his character well throughout the finale.

The rewinding bit was pure genius, in fact, I was half disappointed when he stopped.

The ending leaves it wonderfully open, and now I can't wait for the Christmas special. It's only another.. oh.. 6 months.
 
it was brilliant and i reiterate, some of you are such miserable bastards.

i loved every single second. roll on christmas.
 
I am love that in Confidental, Beth Willis's objection to the Fez is that Matt Smith would want to keep it, they seem such a tight bunch on that set, more so than in previous series, and the chemistry between Matt & Karen is loads better than between the Doctor & Amy.
 
Brilliant concluding episode to a brilliant series. I really have been pleasantly surprised with the 11th Doctor, i went into this series expecting to dislike him but instead he's secured a firm position as my third favourite Doctor.

Really looking forward to the christmas special and next series, i just hope Moffat and co can maintain the same high quality.
 
Much better than a RTD season finale. No deus ex machina and the epic moment the doctor came back was played down.

In a less experienced writers hands Amy would proclaim the doctor and the TARDIS doors would open with Smith bathed in light with Murray Gold music blaring
 
"It's a fez; I wear a fez now. Fezzes are cool."

Loved it!

Confidential mentions that it's the end of the universe, the gloves are off and the Doctor is breaking all the rules which is why he's jumping around everywhere like a maniac.
 
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wamdue said:
I am love that in Confidental, Beth Willis's objection to the Fez is that Matt Smith would want to keep it, they seem such a tight bunch on that set, more so than in previous series, and the chemistry between Matt & Karen is loads better than between the Doctor & Amy.
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Sadly, Beth Willis is out. Conflicting rumours as to why - some hints that she used her position to get her boyfriend a job on the show and thus a BBC-paid for holiday in Croatia during the Vampires in Venice shoot. Others that she stacked the show with co-workers from Ashes to Ashes, some of whom worked... some of whom really didn't.
 
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