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Mowing your lawn once a fortnight should be considered a risk in any sane society.

Maybe we should all stay locked up in a houses rather than indulge in the slightest behaviour that would put us at risk.

If I got mugged on my way to the bus-stop would you say I should stop using public transport?

What if my son had been mugged on his way home from the shopping centre that is next door to the pub? Would you say that he should stop going out to the shops?
 
Mowing your lawn once a fortnight should be considered a risk in any sane society.

Maybe we should all stay locked up in a houses rather than indulge in the slightest behaviour that would put us at risk.

Since you probably didn't see my edited post, theft is a major issue in my city. The response was the following

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They're called window bars. People take actions to limit risks. You can't limit them all, but you can try. That's what makes this

If I got mugged on my way to the bus-stop would you say I should stop using public transport?
a flawed argument. Yeah, you can't stop all risks. Not everything is under your control. What you can do however is do what you can to turn the situation in your favor. Using public transportation as an example, if you're using the subway try going in the car with the conductor. If you're on the bus, sit where the bus driver is. You can't eliminate all risk, that is impossible. You can lessen it however.
 
The point I am getting at is that if people do modify their behaviour and still get attack there are people who will tell them they simply need to modify their behaviour more.

They stop wearing sexy clothes, they still get attack and then people tell them they should make themselves even more unattractive. They do that and still get attack and people tell them they should stop looking like a bag lady because everyone knows bag ladies are fair game.
 
The point I am getting at is that if people do modify their behaviour and still get attack there are people who will tell them they simply need to modify their behaviour more.

The stop wearing sexy clothes, they still get attack and then people tell them they should make themselves even more unattractive. They do that and still get attack and people tell them they should stop looking like a bag lady because everyone knows bag ladies are fair game.

It's all about the cost to benefit ratio. Is walking to the bar by myself in the middle of the night worth it to me. I don't think so. Someone else might feel otherwise. That's up to them. They do need to be aware that there is an element of risk to their actions and plan accordingly.
 
^Okay, but what if we take as our premise the idea that rape is motivated by a desire to dominate. That is, it's not about stealing sex, it's about using sex to re-enforce a hierarchy. The rapist asserts superiority by denying the victim their basic right to bodily autonymy.

I offer a couple of points in support of this interpretation

- Prison rape is well-recorded as a hierarchy of dominance rather than [homo]sexual desire.

- Certain groups who are already marginalised in some other way tend to have higher instances of rape - percentages of rape are higher for women than men, for people with disabilities than for the able-bodied, among black women and latinas than white women, among transwomen than ciswomen, etc

- Male rapists of men often use the threat of emasculation to keep their vitims shamed and quiet. That is, they'll convince them that the rape makes them more like a woman or a gay man, which the rapist codes as an insult, as making the victim 'lesser'.

- Rape is used as one tactic among an arsenal of others by abusive partners to break their partner's spirit.

- Rape is a common weapon of war.

- Rape is used by gangs as a rite of initiation, elevating a recruit into a more elite membership.

- Johns who rape prostitutes often have partners and thus access to 'free sex' if that's what they were seeking. They aren't skipping out on the bill, they're committing hate crimes against prostituted women.

- Psychologists reckon convicted male rapists tend to have more rigid ideas of 'manliness' and gender roles than non-rapists. They are aggressively protective of the privileges that keep them higher on the power ladder than their victims.

If rape is about dominance, not lust, the tactics for avoiding it have to change because the 'valuable property' model doesn't make sense any more. Instead of "don't flash your sexy assets lest you tempt a rapist" it becomes "don't show any visible signs that you're part of a group a rapist wants to dominate."

And that's impossible - you can't change your gender, or your race, or your class, or your physical or mental disabilities, or your nationality, or your family, every time you think you might be in the presence of a rapist. Especially since said rapist will not be wearing an ID badge, nor will he be hanging around the helpfully monikered "Rapist Avenue". He's more likely to attack you in your home or a friend's home than in a dark alley.

It's still theoretically possible to perform risk-management. But first one must have a better understanding of who rapists are, how they think, what kind of bystanders' attitudes enable them etc. And in order to do this, we need to lose the myth of the stranger who targets women in skirts, walking alone. Not because women in skirts walking alone are never raped by strangers - it certainly happens - but because focusing on the skirt and the location misses the crux of the issue. The same woman could be raped by the same man for exactly the same reasons while wearing sweat pants in the laundry room if that had been the occasion that presented itself.
 
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What you're saying only reinforces my statement. You can't defend against everything, all you can do is try your best. There can be a million motivations for every action. Just because you can't defend against motivation X doesn't mean you should just give up. There's always Y and Z out there that you can prevent.
 
What you say people should do isn't 'defending themselves' instead it is 'cowering to the worst people in society".
 
What you say people should do isn't 'defending themselves' instead it is 'cowering to the worst people in society".
On the contrary, I fully supported the use of tasers and pepper spray in the beginning of the thread.

I do however recognize that there are some actions that people just shouldn't take. Hot chick dressed in skimpy clothes leaving a wild party late at night by herself? Yeah, I would call that putting oneself at risk.
 
What you say people should do isn't 'defending themselves' instead it is 'cowering to the worst people in society".

I do however recognize that there are some actions that people just shouldn't take. Hot chick dressed in skimpy clothes leaving a wild party late at night by herself? Yeah, I would call that putting oneself at risk.

But one has to define what a 'hot chick', 'skimpy clothes', 'wild party' etc are before one decides that they are putting themselves at risk. In some countries wearing anything outside of a burqa is skimpy clothing" and the only acceptable behaviour is for a woman to be accompanied by a man who she is related to.

Whereas to me a short black dress that shows a little clevarage is quite acceptable.

On the contrary, I fully supported the use of tasers and pepper spray in the beginning of the thread.
It is illegal for civilians to use pepper sprays and tasers in many places in the western world.
 
Mowing your lawn once a fortnight should be considered a risk in any sane society.

Maybe we should all stay locked up in a houses rather than indulge in the slightest behaviour that would put us at risk.

If I got mugged on my way to the bus-stop would you say I should stop using public transport?

What if my son had been mugged on his way home from the shopping centre that is next door to the pub? Would you say that he should stop going out to the shops?

Well in this society you have to risk going out and just hope for the best that you get home again
I just think if you watch your back front back and centre you will be alright.
it is mostly at night that you have to be careful.
if l go somewhere at night l wil take a taxi on the way back or a freind will tkae me home.
But if l leaved in the city of Melbourne l would be more weary of my self
But l live on the outskirts near the beach and our area is pretty crime free apart from the usaul fight here and there

I also use Bus transport at night when l go to work sometimes it gets abit hairy.
Like the night a group of teens decided to throw rocks at the bus l was traveling on.
The bus driver decided to stop and confront these guys and there were temn of them there were about 9 guys on the bus.
The bus driver decided to get back into the bus because the passagers were begging him
It was scary but if you have to get to work you have to take a risk to earn a living
 
What you say people should do isn't 'defending themselves' instead it is 'cowering to the worst people in society".

I do however recognize that there are some actions that people just shouldn't take. Hot chick dressed in skimpy clothes leaving a wild party late at night by herself? Yeah, I would call that putting oneself at risk.

But one has to define what a 'hot chick', 'skimpy clothes', 'wild party' etc are before one decides that they are putting themselves at risk.
Well that is up to the individual now isn't it? Personal judgment is a beautiful thing.


In some countries wearing anything outside of a burqa is skimpy clothing" and the only acceptable behaviour is for a woman to be accompanied by a man who she is related to.

Whereas to me a short black dress that shows a little clevarage is quite acceptable.
I think it goes without saying that you need to know your environment. Which is what women visiting countries like Afghanistan do. Remember when the invasion happened and Western women were covering events over there? They were dressing in accordance with Afghani culture.

On the contrary, I fully supported the use of tasers and pepper spray in the beginning of the thread.
It is illegal for civilians to use pepper sprays and tasers in many places in the western world.
I can only deal with my little corner of the world. The Europeans, Africans, Asians etc will need to find their own solutions that work for them
 
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Hey all, sorry to bump this thread but I was reading this article on Cracked, it made me laugh and I had to share.

LINK

Relavent portion that made me laugh is #4 on the list at the bottom of the page.

So Rapex is basically a female condom that has wire barbs in it. If a woman is attacked by a man, the barbs dig into his penis and will have to be surgically removed. It kind of turns a woman's crotch into Sarlacc pit from Return of the Jedi. That in turn means any woman wearing this has the most badass vagina ever.
 
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