Dr. Strange movie - gettin' real!
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Cooper strikes me as someone who could expand his acting range to suit the role. But maybe Caviezel's never had the right types of roles - they always seem to shoehorn him into the same character type.
Too lightweight.
Right, a complex character. Outside Brosnan's limited acting range.
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Wrong physical type. Dr. Strange should be at least within spitting distance of "conventionally handsome." Caviezel or Hamm are the right idea in the looks department.
Hamm is the wrong type, as much as I love him. He is more of a Batman or Superman physically, whereas with Strange I find myself leaning towards names like Simon Baker or James Marsters. I've had someone else on the edge of my mind that would be even better, but I can't quite figure out who it is.
Hmmm... now James Marsters is someone I hadn't considered but I could really see him in the part.
Yep...that's exactly who I cast in my mind too...although Derek Jacobi would work as well...
If he was just fifteen, twenty years younger Christopher Lee could rock the shit out of that role.
Hell he probably still could.
Please let this be a joke:
http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/102846-patrick-dempsey-vies-for-doctor-strange
http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/102846-patrick-dempsey-vies-for-doctor-strange
Why do I think "NERRRRRRRD!" when I see Patrick Dempsey drawn like Dr. Strange?
I suspect you haven't seen The Matador, The Tailor of Panama or Seraphim Falls. There's more to Brosnan than 007. But of course, he's too old now.
Right, obviously actors playing comic characters have to be exactly like their comic depictions. Hugh Jackman is 5'3", same as comic Wolverine and Robert Downey Junior looks exactly like comic Tony Stark. Ian McKellen has the imposing chest of comic Mangneto and Cillian Murphy is an Ichabod Crane lookalike, just like Scarecrow in the comics.
Besides, plenty of women (and some men) seem to find Tennant conventionally handsome.
Dr. Stephen Strange the hot shot surgeon (neurosurgeon if I recall correctly) was mid thirties. Following the idiot trend of pretending twentysomethings are at the top of their field is a piece of ludicrousness not needed in a superhero movie whose the superpower is actually supposed to be magic. Given the hitting bottom process after the accident that ruins his career, then apprenticeship in magic, Dr. Strange the occultist should be mid-forties at least. Even going to a well preserved mid-fifties is doable for the right actor. Arrogance humbled, then confidence restored, but an undercurrent of crazy belief in the supernatural. Plus a proven track record of working in green screen.
Going mid-forties, Tom Cruise. Going mid-fifties, Andrew McCarthy.
The real difficulty about a Dr. Strange movie, is doing the Kirby effects. Jack Kirby's visuals for Strange's magic is all that really works in Strange. The rest is dross. I doubt they should do an origin story. The death of the Ancient One (James Hong is a good choice if you insist on typecasting Asiatic but Wilford Brimley casting against type comes to my mind,) and Dr. Strange enters the afterlife to gain the rest of his secrets seems like the best bet. Falling in love with Clea, damsel in distress, might do. Baron Mordo is a bore and Dormammu is like another universe and doesn't really seem like a good enemy.
Part of the problem for a Dr. Strange movie is competing with Constantine. Constantine had Keanu Reeves which is enough to condemn the movie on this bbs, but Constantine is one of the most artistically successful comic book movies, because it eschewed the origin story (except in flashback,) for what is basically the end of Constantine's career. It gave it much more impact than is common for such flicks.
Going mid-forties, Tom Cruise. Going mid-fifties, Andrew McCarthy.
The real difficulty about a Dr. Strange movie, is doing the Kirby effects. Jack Kirby's visuals for Strange's magic is all that really works in Strange. The rest is dross. I doubt they should do an origin story. The death of the Ancient One (James Hong is a good choice if you insist on typecasting Asiatic but Wilford Brimley casting against type comes to my mind,) and Dr. Strange enters the afterlife to gain the rest of his secrets seems like the best bet. Falling in love with Clea, damsel in distress, might do. Baron Mordo is a bore and Dormammu is like another universe and doesn't really seem like a good enemy.
Part of the problem for a Dr. Strange movie is competing with Constantine. Constantine had Keanu Reeves which is enough to condemn the movie on this bbs, but Constantine is one of the most artistically successful comic book movies, because it eschewed the origin story (except in flashback,) for what is basically the end of Constantine's career. It gave it much more impact than is common for such flicks.
^^ Do you mean Ditko, I don't think Kirby did much with Doctor Strange? Also, I don't know that competing with Constantine is a problem, I don't think Constantine is that big with the mainstream and they seem like quite different properties to me.
Exactly. To give credit where it's due, all those amazing visuals in the early DOCTOR STRANGE stories were done by Steve Ditko, not Jack Kirby.
As far as I know, Kirby never drew DOCTOR STRANGE.
You can't discount the contribution of Steranko.
Oh yeah, lots of great artists have illustrated the comic: Frank Brunner, Gene Colan, etc.
But I believe it was Ditko who originally established the distinctive psychedelic look of the series . . .
Yes, I meant Steve Ditko. Don't ask me why I wrote Jack Kirby. Maybe it was a mental block against giving an Objectivist credit?
But Ditko does indeed deserve the credit for creating the distinctive Dr. Strange visual for magic.
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I have it on tape and tried to show it a few Shore leaves ago when Jeffery was a guest.
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I have it on tape and tried to show it a few Shore leaves ago when Jeffery was a guest.
Signed
Buck Rogers
Were you not successful in doing so?
I'm not so sure -- that's why I mentioned Steranko. His name and "psychedelic comic" sort of run together. Of course, all these guys in the Marvel bullpen (back when there was such a physical place) were influencing each other...