Female Condom Unveiled For World Cup

[Kestra]

I am not saying they are asking to be raped but it doesnt help the sitation when you are dreesed in a way where your bum is nearly showing and your boobs are hanging out of the dress.

it will give men ideas.sometimes

Words like this don't help the situation either. You know what? Some men will "get ideas" regardless. And most of them will keep them as just that, sexual thoughts, instead of rape. Rape is much more about power than anything else.

Some women can't even help but dress in such a way that draws attention. I know that no matter what I wear, guys stare at my chest. But hey, that's my fault for having big boobs, right?

 

[Amaris]

I was not saying that.
I love the way you guys like to twist things around.
it is abit of a game to you isnt it.
i do not think that men should act like this.but you cant stop it if it is encouraged. by some of the women here.

No one is twisting anything. You stated that women were asking for it by the way they dress and act. Don't agree?

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Alot of women do get themselves into trouble and sometimes they do ask for it in the way they act.
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There it is. You said it. No one had to twist anything.
You also do men a grave disservice by essentially saying we can't control ourselves.

Your statement falls well in line with the ideology espoused by Islamic extremists who force women to be completely covered out in public, lest they "inflame men's passions and cause them to act on their lust".

A textbook example of number 3 on the list of internet argument techniques.

Indeed. I could keep quoting it all day. One more time:

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Alot of women do get themselves into trouble and sometimes they do ask for it in the way they act.
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It's right there in print.

 

[Guartho]

A woman could be prancing through the streets naked while masturbating but that still doesn't mean you can go up to her and screw her on the spot.

Well, to be fair, when I have a dream like that, that's exactly what it means.

 

[Angela 0077]

Anyway l better behave my self and get back to that FEMALE CONDOMTthat hole is not looking good.
Wouldnt mind getting a new pick
but before l go back to the topic l started l would like to say that l dont mind people talking about rape but l was just stating that sometimes how we dress can encourage men in certain ways.

 

[sidious618]

A woman could be prancing through the streets naked while masturbating but that still doesn't mean you can go up to her and screw her on the spot.

Well, to be fair, when I have a dream like that, that's exactly what it means.

I want to add that the last sentence of my post:

The way people dress is a way that they express yourself. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's okay for them to be raped.

is something I never thought I'd have to actually spell out. It seemed so bleeding obvious to me but I guess it's not to everyone.

 

[Amaris]

Anyway l better behave my self and get back to that FEMALE CONDOMTthat hole is not looking good.
Wouldnt mind getting a new pick
but before l go back to the topic l started l would like to say that l dont mind people talking about rape but l was just stating that sometimes how we dress can encourage men in certain ways.

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Alot of women do get themselves into trouble and sometimes they do ask for it in the way they act.
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We're still on topic.

 

[Teelie]

Repeatedly spamming that seems counter productive to moving on from it. It's obviously a stupid comment to make but repeatedly quoting it seems like it's baiting for more.

 

[Rii]

It's kind of amusing to see how fast people lose their shit at the merest hint of the notion that folks should exercise anything resembling judgement or indeed higher brain activity when it comes to the danger of rape. Most folks are pretty comfortable with pointing out that walking around a bad part of town at night listening to your iPod and counting a fat wad of cash is, well, stupid. But when it comes to rape, such eminently sensible observations become 'blaming the victim' and 'excusing the rapist'.

Except, that is, when they're presented by such folk themselves as examples of measures they're forced to take to reduce the risk of dangerous encounters, such as not walking down dimly lit alleys. Why they do not typically describe such measures as 'blaming themselves' is as yet inexplicable.

 

[Amaris]

Repeatedly spamming that seems counter productive to moving on from it. It's obviously a stupid comment to make but repeatedly quoting it seems like it's baiting for more.

I wasn't going to keep it up for much longer anyway. She simply kept denying she had said it, that we had twisted her words, and as long as she was doing so, I was pointing out the very clear argument, made by herself against herself, in that regard.

 

[sidious618]

It's kind of amusing to see how fast people lose their shit at the suggestion that folks should exercise anything resembling judgement when it comes to the subject of rape. Most folks are pretty comfortable with pointing out that walking around a bad part of town at night listening to your iPod and counting a fat wad of cash at night is, well, stupid. But when it comes to rape, such eminently sensible observations become 'blaming the victim' and 'excusing the rapist'.

Except when they're presented by folks themselves as steps they take to reduce the risk of dangerous encounters, such as not walking down dimly lit sidestreets. Why they do not typically describe such measures as 'blaming themselves' is as yet inexplicable.

I don't think people are saying there's no such thing as personal responsibility but when someone gets robbed/raped/killed it is the aggressor who is at fault.

 

[Luther Sloan]

Dude, I stopped responding to you two pages ago, before you even started in on the "move on" and "change the subject" posts, which is hilarious since you were the one who started the tangent. Are you still carrying on some imaginary conversation with me?

LOB:

I wanted to let it drop. And I was more than willing to. But Miss Chicken needed to know where I was coming from to clear up the air (so she would know what I really was talking about). I didn't mean to drag you guys back into the debate (but I wanted to throw in one last ditch effort before moving on). I simply was clarifying what I already said. Please feel free to ignore my post (if you don't agree with it still).

 

[Angela 0077]

Anyway l better behave my self and get back to that FEMALE CONDOMTthat hole is not looking good.
Wouldnt mind getting a new pick
but before l go back to the topic l started l would like to say that l dont mind people talking about rape but l was just stating that sometimes how we dress can encourage men in certain ways.

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Alot of women do get themselves into trouble and sometimes they do ask for it in the way they act.
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We're still on topic.

Are we.

i think l have made enough comments on things on this thread.
i might see if l can find imformation on other thing to put into this topic in hand

 

[Miss Chicken]

Anyway l better behave my self and get back to that FEMALE CONDOMTthat hole is not looking good.
Wouldnt mind getting a new pick
but before l go back to the topic l started l would like to say that l dont mind people talking about rape but l was just stating that sometimes how we dress can encourage men in certain ways.

If it does encourage men, it only encourages those men without a shred of decency i.e. men who would rape a woman no matter how she dresses and only use the way that she dresses in an attempt to avoid punishment. The fact that you, a woman, think that women should change their behaviour because of the existence of such men shows that your thinking is warped. Once such men used to say "well I saw her ankles and my urges became uncontrollable", now they say "I saw she wore no panties and my urges became uncontrollable" but all along all these men were looking for was a way to try and justify their unjustifiable behaviour. If all girls dressed 'nicely' these men would find another aspect of her behaviour to use to justify their raping of her.

 

[Bears Discover Fire]

It's kind of amusing to see how fast people lose their shit at the suggestion that folks should exercise anything resembling judgement when it comes to the subject of rape. Most folks are pretty comfortable with pointing out that walking around a bad part of town at night listening to your iPod and counting a fat wad of cash at night is, well, stupid. But when it comes to rape, such eminently sensible observations become 'blaming the victim' and 'excusing the rapist'.

Except, that is, when they're presented by such folk themselves as examples of measures they're forced to take to reduce the risk of dangerous encounters, such as not walking down dimly lit alleys. Why they do not typically describe such measures as 'blaming themselves' is as yet inexplicable.

The explanation is easy to me:

Whether its a mugging on a street or a rape in a club, the only person who decides a crime is going to be committed is the criminal. The impetus to commit a crime always remains on the criminal. A victim's lack of sensibility should never recuse a criminal from his actions - be it theft, rape, or whatever.

It is not the victim's burden to stop a criminal's behavior. The criminal is 100% responsible for his own actions.

 

[Angela 0077]

Dude, I stopped responding to you two pages ago, before you even started in on the "move on" and "change the subject" posts, which is hilarious since you were the one who started the tangent. Are you still carrying on some imaginary conversation with me?

LOB:

I wanted to let it drop. And I was more than willing to. But Miss Chicken needed to know where I was coming from to clear up the air (so she would know what I really was talking about). I didn't mean to drag you guys back into the debate (but I wanted to throw in one last ditch effort before moving on). I simply was clarifying what I already said. Please feel free to ignore my post.

Well it is good you did Mr Sloan.
I think it was nice of you to write a few words and tell a person that you felt for them when they were raped by aterrible person

it is good also that a person can say what happened to them and be welcome to speak how they felt when it happened.

 

[Amaris]

We're still on topic.

Are we.

Indeed, we are.

 

[Miss Chicken]

It's kind of amusing to see how fast people lose their shit at the suggestion that folks should exercise anything resembling judgement when it comes to the subject of rape. Most folks are pretty comfortable with pointing out that walking around a bad part of town at night listening to your iPod and counting a fat wad of cash at night is, well, stupid. But when it comes to rape, such eminently sensible observations become 'blaming the victim' and 'excusing the rapist'.

Except, that is, when they're presented by such folk themselves as examples of measures they're forced to take to reduce the risk of dangerous encounters, such as not walking down dimly lit alleys. Why they do not typically describe such measures as 'blaming themselves' is as yet inexplicable.

The explanation is easy to me:

Whether its a mugging on a street or a rape in a club, the only person who decides a crime is going to be committed is the criminal. The impetus to commit a crime always remains on the criminal. A victim's lack of sensibility should never recuse a criminal from his actions - be it theft, rape, or whatever.

It is not the victim's burden to stop a criminal's behavior. The criminal is 100% responsible for his own actions.

Well said.

If I saw a man passed out drunk on a street I would probably call an ambulance for him. I would not go through his pockets and steal his money. If someone does go though his pockets and takes his money the crime is solely the fault of the thief. The only thing the drunk of is guilty of is drinking too much. He is not guilty of anything someone else does to him when he is unconscious. Luckily the majority of people would either ignore him or help him. The ones that would take advantage of him are totally responsible for their behaviour.

 

[Angela 0077]

Well if we are still on topic

What will we discuss now since l am not going to resort back to what l was gas bagging about before

it is not getting me anywhere.

 

[Amaris]

It's kind of amusing to see how fast people lose their shit at the suggestion that folks should exercise anything resembling judgement when it comes to the subject of rape. Most folks are pretty comfortable with pointing out that walking around a bad part of town at night listening to your iPod and counting a fat wad of cash at night is, well, stupid. But when it comes to rape, such eminently sensible observations become 'blaming the victim' and 'excusing the rapist'.

Except, that is, when they're presented by such folk themselves as examples of measures they're forced to take to reduce the risk of dangerous encounters, such as not walking down dimly lit alleys. Why they do not typically describe such measures as 'blaming themselves' is as yet inexplicable.

The explanation is easy to me:

Whether its a mugging on a street or a rape in a club, the only person who decides a crime is going to be committed is the criminal. The impetus to commit a crime always remains on the criminal. A victim's lack of sensibility should never recuse a criminal from his actions - be it theft, rape, or whatever.

It is not the victim's burden to stop a criminal's behavior. The criminal is 100% responsible for his own actions.

Well said.

If I saw a man passed out drunk on a street I would probably call an ambulance for him. I would not go through his pockets and steal his money. If someone does go though his pockets and takes his money the crime is solely the fault of the thief. The only thing the drunk of is guilty of is drinking to much. He is not guilty of anything someone else does to him when he is unconscious. Luckily the majority of people would either ignore him or help him. The ones that would take advantage of him are totally responsible for their behaviour.

Completely agreed.

 

[Jetfire]

The explanation is easy to me:

Whether its a mugging on a street or a rape in a club, the only person who decides a crime is going to be committed is the criminal. The impetus to commit a crime always remains on the criminal. A victim's lack of sensibility should never recuse a criminal from his actions - be it theft, rape, or whatever.

It is not the victim's burden to stop a criminal's behavior. The criminal is 100% responsible for his own actions.

Well said.

If I saw a man passed out drunk on a street I would probably call an ambulance for him. I would not go through his pockets and steal his money. If someone does go though his pockets and takes his money the crime is solely the fault of the thief. The only thing the drunk of is guilty of is drinking to much. He is not guilty of anything someone else does to him when he is unconscious. Luckily the majority of people would either ignore him or help him. The ones that would take advantage of him are totally responsible for their behaviour.

Completely agreed.