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Best death in a Joss Whedon show

Honestly, the one that was the most gut-wrenching and well executed (pardon the pun) was Buffy's death at the end of season five.

Now, you could easily dismiss that one because she was, obviously, resurrected, but we didn't know that at the time, nor did the characters. It was brilliantly done and no Whedon death scene since has really had as much energy or impact (again, forgive the puns) as that scene.

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^^ You didn't know it at the time? Didn't you know that the show was moving to the WB before the finale aired?
 
Well, everybody's listed the most gut-wrenching deaths, but when I think of "best" deaths, I'm going for the "Woohoo!" like Crow getting sucked into the engine, or Buffy lifting the rocket launcher and The Judge asking "What's that do?" with a curious expression on what served him as a face.
 
Another great one IMO was Ben's (and therefore Glory's) death in The Gift. An awesomely unexpected Giles-takes-care-of-business moment
 
Honestly, the one that was the most gut-wrenching and well executed (pardon the pun) was Buffy's death at the end of season five.

Now, you could easily dismiss that one because she was, obviously, resurrected, but we didn't know that at the time, nor did the characters. It was brilliantly done and no Whedon death scene since has really had as much energy or impact (again, forgive the puns) as that scene.

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This. Especially because of the symbolic nature of it: Buffy sacrificing herself to save herself (thus ending her quest to separate her normal life from her slayer life); Dawn rising on a new day; etc...

I think it would be better appreciated if it really had been permanent. I think once Joss & Co. knew that the show wasn't going to end, they should have saved it for later and came up with something else.
 
Angel ("Becoming part 2") - thought it wasn't exactly clear at the time if Angel was dead or had just been sent to a different dimension, it was basically a death scene and it was superbly done. SMG and Boreanaz knocked it out of the park. We had to wait until the next season to find out if Angel was ever coming back (and obviously he did).

Joyce ("The Body") - the realism in this episode is just so creepy. Joyce's death is so quiet and simple and random and meaningless. But that's exactly the way so many deaths are in this world. It just... happens. She wasn't killed. She didn't sacrifice herself in a heroic way. There's no montage or music to go along with it. It's just... death.

Cordelia ("You're Welcome") - an amazing episode featuring the return of a beloved character ends on such a sad note. Cordelia's absence in season 5 was quite noticeable, and once she returned I was hoping she'd stick around. Alas, it was not meant to be.

Fred ("A Hole in the World") - it doesn't get more painful than this. Amazing performances by Denisof and Acker.

Wesley ("Not Fade Away") - Denisof and Acker do it yet again. Illyria coming to Wesley's side and "lying" to him by turning into Fred is so heartbreaking, and yet touching.
 
Joyce ("The Body") - the realism in this episode is just so creepy. Joyce's death is so quiet and simple and random and meaningless. But that's exactly the way so many deaths are in this world. It just... happens. She wasn't killed. She didn't sacrifice herself in a heroic way. There's no montage or music to go along with it. It's just... death.

Agreed. All of the other Whedon deaths are traumatic to watch, but this one has to be the most horribly realistic of them all.:(
 
For pure shock value, I have to go with Wash. The first time I saw Serenity in theaters, my friend and I spent the whole drive home going, "I can't believe he killed Wash!"

However, Joyce's death and the episode surrounding it has to be one of the best portrayals of the subject that I've ever seen.
 
I think one my favourite deaths, was in Buffy's Dirty Girls, when Caleb kills the potential Slayer Molly.
Her attempted english accent throughout Season 7 was atrocious. I surprised Tony Head didn't bitch slap her
 
Gotta go with Jenny Callender, just for its pure exquisite cruelty.

With Wesley a close second . . . .
 

Ah yes. Water cooler vengeance!

^^ You didn't know it at the time? Didn't you know that the show was moving to the WB before the finale aired?

You mean moving from the WB to UPN.

Uh, the lab guy who helped create Illyria in Angel.

"Were you even listening?" :guffaw:

:guffaw:Yeah. Angel was always good at dark humor, but it never got more darkly humorous than this. I love the way Wesley totally undermines Angel's speech about how they're so much more noble than Illyria but just suddenly shooting Knox in cold blood.

FAVORITE HEROIC DEATH:
Doyle in "Hero."
"The good fight, yeah? You never know until you've been tested. I get that now."

DEATH THAT MAKES ME SHAKE MY HEAD WITH REGRET:
When Drusilla & Lindsey come in to re-sire Darla in "The Trial."
"How did you think this was going to end?"
:( Very sad. I still think that, in another life, Angel & Darla could have lived happily ever after.

DEATHS THAT RIP YOUR HEART OUT WITH A SPOON:

Cordelia in "You're Welcome." Even though we don't actually see it, the look on Angel's face when he gets that phone call says it all. In a very simple, straight-forward way, Angel feels it, and lets us feel it too. Sadder still because all of the signs were there. We just didn't see them.

Fred in "A Hole in the World"/"Shells." After the sucker punch of Cordelia's death already left us dazed, Fred's death managed to pull the rug out from under us just when we had stumbled back to our feet. It's so painful that, when Illyria impersonates Fred in "The Girl in Question" & "Not Fade Away," rather than feel a mild sense of pleasure at seeing her again, I feel the same way Wesley does, as if it's a violation & a perversion of Fred's memory.

MOST SURPRISING DEATHS:

The first one I'd like to mention is an oft forgotten death-- Illyria staking Spike from behind in "Time Bomb." At that point, it was well known that the show had been cancelled. And after the deaths of Cordelia & Fred, I was starting to expect that the entire cast might be killed off one by one over the few remaining episodes. So when Illyria killed Spike, I believed it was real. (The one error they made in the episode was they should have gone straight to commercial after this. Then, I would have spent the entire commercial break convinced that Spike had just been killed off. But by not going into commercial until after Illyria also managed to kill the rest of the cast, it signalled to me that none of these deaths were going to last past the end of the episode.)

Penny's death in Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along-Blog was natural from a thematic perspective. I just didn't expect Joss Whedon to go there, not when the series had been so relatively light up until that point. I was expecting Joss to finally relent and give us a happy ending. After all, it's a musical.

Wash in Serenity. I had never seen the TV show, but just from watching the movie, Wash had been my favorite character ever since:
"This landing could get real interesting."
"Define 'interesting.'"
"'Oh god, oh god, we're all gonna die'?"
I was heart broken when he died. True, it was effective in ramping up the jeopardy for the other characters. I started to suspect that none of them would make it out of this, except for perhaps Mal, River, & maybe Jayne. However, in some ways, I was no longer able to enjoy the rest of the movie because I had already lost my favorite character in such a cruel, shocking way. This was at one of the summer preview screenings, so there was a woman from Universal waiting outside with a clipboard to ask us what we thought about the movie overall. None of us could express how we felt about the movie overall because we were all so aggrieved over Wash's death. He was all we could talk about. The poor woman really had no idea what she had walked into (which shows just how little regard Joss Whedon has for his subordinates' well being:p).

Lilah Morgan in "Calvary." I suspected that Cordelia would turn out to be evil. I didn't suspect that she would demonstrate it in such a visceral way.

MOST OVERRATED DEATH:
Lindsey in "Not Fade Away." I do kinda like that it was Lorne that killed him instead of Angel or someone else more important. But I'm still bothered that he was killed at all. He was helping them. Lorne suggested that Lindsey would always be part of the problem. I disagree. Of all the W&H employees over the years, he seemed to be the only one that ever showed glimmers of a conscience. For a show that was supposed to be all about redemption, Lindsey's potential was prematurely quashed. (But then, I really don't like anything they did with his character in Season 5. They never should have brought him back after "Dead End.")
 
Fred "Why can't I stay?" Possibly the saddest line in the whole series.

Wesley: Well, he's my favorite character in the Buffyverse, and easily its most tragic. The guy can just never ever win. He loses his job, his friends, and has to live with the consequences of his actions. Then when the love of his life finally returns his feelings, he loses her. Then, he loses his own life in the final battle. When Illyria lies to him, my eyes always start tearing up.
Fred's "Why can't I stay?" is matched only by Illyria's "Do you want me to lie to you now?" before appearing as Fred to the dying Wesley in the series finale. Amy Acker is awesome.
 
"The Body" may be one of the 5 best episodes of any TV show I've ever seen. But I don't think we'll ever watch it again. It first aired on the 1st anniversary of my wife's mother's death, and it really hit my wife in the gut.
 
Yeah, my grandpa passed a few months ago, and I doubt I'll be able to watch the Body again for some time. It was that real, that traumatic. One of the best episodes of TV ever made, though.
 
I came to Buffy pretty late (last year). When I watched "The Body" for the first time it was about 3 weeks before my mother died. She had cancer so I knew it was coming soon and that episode was absolutely devastating for me.

I watched it again a few weeks ago and it was even harder this time. It's difficult to watch because it's so brilliant. I don't watch it as much as other episodes of TV that I love but it is undeniably awesome.
 
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