16-year old solo round-the-world Abby Sunderland lost at sea

[Marc]

Apparently she's not going to be continuing the trip after she's picked up.

and she''s not having to pay for the cost of her rescue.

That's actually pretty common. You don't want to discourage people from activating emergency beacons when they need help, after all.

A few years back when English sailor Tony Bullimore got into deep shit it was the Australian Navy who rescued it at cost of over $200,000.

Bullimore got paid a decent chunk of cash to tell his story while Australian tax payers had to eat the cost of his rescue.

If people are determined to do this sort of thing they should be required to ensure money is available to cover any costs in the eventuality a rescue is needed.

This isn't doing something for the betterment of mankind - this is doing something for their own personal glorification and which there is the possible of a money to be made so let them cover all their costs - especially when the do something as stupid as sail in the Indian Ocean in the Winter when it's known to be very dangerous.

 

[Lindley]

If people are determined to do this sort of thing they should be required to ensure money is available to cover any costs in the eventuality a rescue is needed.

But how do you define "this sort of thing"? Search and rescue services are available for a wide variety of undertakings.

Every single plane that files a flight plan is protected by SAR guarantees if they are more than an hour overdue, for instance, no matter how small.

 

[Marc]

If people are determined to do this sort of thing they should be required to ensure money is available to cover any costs in the eventuality a rescue is needed.

But how do you define "this sort of thing"? Search and rescue services are available for a wide variety of undertakings.

Every single plane that files a flight plan is protected by SAR guarantees if they are more than an hour overdue, for instance, no matter how small.

I'm talking about things like sailing around the world singled handed - a process that achieves nothing more than getting one's name in the record.

 

[Canadave]

and she''s not having to pay for the cost of her rescue.

That's actually pretty common. You don't want to discourage people from activating emergency beacons when they need help, after all.

A few years back when English sailor Tony Bullimore got into deep shit it was the Australian Navy who rescued it at cost of over $200,000.

Bullimore got paid a decent chunk of cash to tell his story while Australian tax payers had to eat the cost of his rescue.

If people are determined to do this sort of thing they should be required to ensure money is available to cover any costs in the eventuality a rescue is needed.

This isn't doing something for the betterment of mankind - this is doing something for their own personal glorification and which there is the possible of a money to be made so let them cover all their costs - especially when the do something as stupid as sail in the Indian Ocean in the Winter when it's known to be very dangerous.

So what, the Coast Guard should send people a bill every time they rescue a boater?

 

[gturner]

I'm talking about things like sailing around the world singled handed - a process that achieves nothing more than getting one's name in the record.

Not at all true! What about Desmond on Lost who was sailing around the world solo, got shipwrecked, and spent months single-handedly saving our entire freakin' planet by pushing the button?!!!

 

[Bloodwhiner]

I'm talking about things like sailing around the world singled handed - a process that achieves nothing more than getting one's name in the record.

Gee, I guess your traveling is going to Disney World and a wild adventure is the roller coaster.

Her name wasn't going in any record books. No one keeps those records.

So don't let your child sail around the world; I wouldn't let mine either but only because he isn't capable and isn't mature enough. However I will let her parents decide what their daughter is capable of, it isn't my business.

I do let my 13-year-old SCUBA dive, some would say that is reckless. If he wants to tandem parachute jump, I'd be okay with it too. More recklessness on my part.

He also goes to Honduras to visit family. Gee, that exposes him to Dengue, Malaria, street violence and questionable food quality. Someone call child services.

Am I going to let him drive a car at night when he turns 16? Not a friggin' chance. I'm not that reckless.

 

[RJDiogenes]

Wow! I didn't see this thread last night, but it wouldn't have mattered anyway. I swear, many comments here are from such snively, knee-jerk reacting overprotective ninnies that it isn't funny.

Trolling isn't funny either. Try to remember where you are.

 

[darkwing_duck1]

If people are determined to do this sort of thing they should be required to ensure money is available to cover any costs in the eventuality a rescue is needed.

But how do you define "this sort of thing"? Search and rescue services are available for a wide variety of undertakings.

Every single plane that files a flight plan is protected by SAR guarantees if they are more than an hour overdue, for instance, no matter how small.

And the cost of that is paid through the fees and taxes levvied on aircraft and aircraft pilots.

Why should sailors be any different?

This never should have happened. If she's bored and wants something to do, she should join Americorps or something, not go play with Daddy's boats out in the open ocean...

 

[Marc]

That's actually pretty common. You don't want to discourage people from activating emergency beacons when they need help, after all.

A few years back when English sailor Tony Bullimore got into deep shit it was the Australian Navy who rescued it at cost of over $200,000.

Bullimore got paid a decent chunk of cash to tell his story while Australian tax payers had to eat the cost of his rescue.

If people are determined to do this sort of thing they should be required to ensure money is available to cover any costs in the eventuality a rescue is needed.

This isn't doing something for the betterment of mankind - this is doing something for their own personal glorification and which there is the possible of a money to be made so let them cover all their costs - especially when the do something as stupid as sail in the Indian Ocean in the Winter when it's known to be very dangerous.

So what, the Coast Guard should send people a bill every time they rescue a boater?

if it's a result of the boater doing something stupid then why now? Hell heard of one city that's recently announced it's going to bill drivers who cause accidents through stupidity or careless driving for the attendance of police and fire services.

I have no problems with people being rescued when it's a genuine accident that was unforeseeable and they were abiding by the rules.

And Sunderland was going for a record - she was trying to be the youngest person to go around the world solo in the fastest time.

 

[Lindley]

And Sunderland was going for a record - she was trying to be the youngest person to go around the world solo in the fastest time.

Technically that record was already out of reach when these events occurred, since she had to stop previously for repairs.

 

[Marc]

And Sunderland was going for a record - she was trying to be the youngest person to go around the world solo in the fastest time.

Technically that record was already out of reach when these events occurred, since she had to stop previously for repairs.

Then she should of stopped there rather than entering the India Ocean as the south hemisphere entered the winter months - a time when it becomes very dangerous and which she had been warned about.

Pushing on was reckless and stupid.

Had she drowned yes it would of been a tragedy and sad event for her family but she would of still been a Darwin Award candidate.

 

[Angela 0077]

Yes l heard about this girl being missing at seas

i hope they find her she is in between Australia and africa

There was another girl who sailed around the world and she is a aussie her name is Jessica.

This girl was trying to beat her record.

 

[Angela 0077]

http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/newshome/7387214/australia-to-foot-bill-for-teen-sailors-rescue/


Abby has been found and she is going to be picked up by a french boat going towards her.

This is good news

A Qantas plane made contact with her as she is fighting very rough seas at this moment.

 

[StolenThunder]

Had she drowned yes it would of been a tragedy and sad event for her family but she would of still been a Darwin Award candidate.

Not in the slightest. She is an extremely skilled person pushing the limits of her abilities to circumnavigate the world.

 

[Amaris]

Had she drowned yes it would of been a tragedy and sad event for her family but she would of still been a Darwin Award candidate.

Not in the slightest. She is an extremely skilled person pushing the limits of her abilities to circumnavigate the world.

Completely agreed, and brave to make the attempt, to boot.

 

[darkwing_duck1]

Had she drowned yes it would of been a tragedy and sad event for her family but she would of still been a Darwin Award candidate.

Not in the slightest. She is an extremely skilled person pushing the limits of her abilities to circumnavigate the world.

She's a sixteen year old kid futzing around with a task that would give a seasoned sailor 3 times her age pause for no other reason than a useless 15 minutes of "fame".

 

[StolenThunder]

I don't know about her motivation, personality or experience. I simply pointed out that the idea it would be a 'Darwin Award' is not something I agree with.

 

[darkwing_duck1]

I don't know about her motivation, personality or experience. I simply pointed out that the idea it would be a 'Darwin Award' is not something I agree with.

Fair enough. While I have no use for her or what she's done, I agree it's not quite the grand-scale stupidity that the DA usually "honors"...

 

[Tom Riley]

According to one of the articles I read, Abby was actually 2 months behind schedule due to the repair time on her boat, and had only chosen that southerly of a route in order to avoid pirates that frequent the areas farther north. A two month difference can show a very drastic change in weather in an area, especially when those two months are right on the edge of two changing seasons; Abby wasn't originally going to be in that area for this time of the year. Another thing, several more experienced sailors have been quoted as saying things like how maturely she is handling the situation, that situations like this can and have happened to even older and more experienced sailors, and that this type of thing can happen even during the "right" season. Although they admit it was risky, none of them seem to really see much of a problem with it, and I tend to agree. I don't think her age is all that big of a deal, and I certainly wouldn't call this a matter of neglect or abuse on the parents part. Only someone who knows her would be able to gauge her maturity level, and there are 16 year olds who are much more mature than people even 5 years older. She's only 2 years from 18, and I definitely know some 16 year olds who are more mature than a lot of 18 year olds who I know. I also know plenty of 18 year olds who are more immature than the average 16 year old. It's all a matter of the individual, and who knows someone better than their family and friends? They supported her and unless you know her personally you have to take their word. Her older brother completed a solo-circumnavigation at the age of 17 last summer, and her father is a shipwright; she has a fairly extensive background with sailing. All in all, I don't see any big problem with her attempting this trip. She had a stroke of bad luck and will be unable to complete her journey, and I hope she gets picked up safely. Aside from that, kudos to her for attempting such a thing, and I hope that someday she'll be able to finish what she started despite not setting a record, I'm sure it'd be fun for a sailor like her either way.

http://www.grindtv.com/outdoor/blog...aits+rescue+as+questions+arise+about+journey/

 

[darkwing_duck1]

^Who gives a rat-fuck?

This is an exercise in pure narcissism. "Hey! Look at what I did!"

The global economy in the tank, millions out of work, Congress letting UE benefits expire because of political bullshit and everyone's making a big deal worrying about some bored little rich girl who got in trouble playing with one of Daddy's boats...it's disgusting.

Her parents have done their kids no favors indulging them in this bullshit.

*edit* I just did a quick check on-line, and a boat in the same size range as hers goes from anywhere from $50,000-$150,000 depending on type, fittings, etc USED.

I could live for 3 YEARS on $50,000...and this bimbo's parents wasted that kind of money on a fucking boat...