Gaith does Wonder Woman
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Hmm. DC must be listening to you. I just read a recent issue of THE BRAVE AND THE BOLD (written by J. Michael Stracyznski of all people) in which Batgirl catches Wonder Woman making out with Zatanna.
And, no, there's no weird alien mind control involved.
There's also an cheeky moment earlier on where WW, after stripping a terrorist bomber at super-speed, quips "I've never had much trouble getting someone's clothes off."
Whoa. I guess Diana isn't quite as celibate as we've been assuming.
Wonder Woman was NOT making out with Zatanna.
Oops. You're right. Reading the issue more carefully, I see that there's a bit of deliberate misdirection there. Batgirl thinks Diana and Zee are making out, but it later turns out that she's misreading the situation . . . .
I won't say more for fear of giving away the twist.
I found this picture, that portraits the actress Cobie Smulders as Wonder Woman
She would fit for the role nicely
Looks like someone seriously beat her up. I mean, someone pounded her ass into the ground.
That pic looks awesome...
I would diagree....
It just shows that WW is a tough woman....
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I don't know. Batman and Superman usually get roughed up in their movies, before saving the day in the end.
I can't imagine Wonder Woman won't run into some brutal opposition around act three . . . .
Now see, I can absolutely see Diana coming out with something like that and have no idea it could be taken as anything other than a totally innocent statement of fact; the innuendo soaring right over her head.
They'll use Red Sonja (as in the movie) for a template. She'll just march towards the evil doers lair and beat up anything in between.
The only villain shown to have any chance against her will be another woman, too.
Batman and Superman have one major thing that separates them from Wonder Woman. It's okay, and practically expected, to see a male hero getting beaten up in a movie, while the MPAA will get its knickers in a twist if they show similar scenes with a woman regardless of the context and regardless of who that woman is.
And there was a lot of controversy about it getting a rating as low as it did.
A Wonder Woman movie will be shooting for a UK12A at the highest.
Checkmate
Commodore
You can scratch out the pervasive language, sexual content, nudity, and drug use most likely.
Point is, there was still a movie, very recently, involving a preteen girl getting her ass kicked by a man. That, alone, proves you completely and utterly wrong about your ignorant, out of touch point of view on the subject.
Point is, there was still a movie, very recently, involving a preteen girl getting her ass kicked by a man. That, alone, proves you completely and utterly wrong about your ignorant, out of touch point of view on the subject.
Once again I am forced to tell you to behave yourself. That's twice in less than a week now.
One movie, one that generated considerable controversy over the portrayal of that young girl, does not wipe out nearly two decades of filmmaking since the likes of Ripley and Connor were around.
I'm going to use your warped logic and wipe out Kick Ass with Black Widow in Iron Man 2.
...but I have been also thinking that maybe Wonder Woman would also work well as an new TV-Show, they could do it after the movie...or maybe a mini-series
Checkmate
Commodore
Feel free to keep saying it. I couldn't care less about you.
Yes. One movie. Which is all it takes to change things, no matter how thick you want to be about that reality. And it's a movie with underaged violence, drug use, sex, and profanity. And it only got a rating R. Now imagine a movie without the drug use, sex, profanity, or underaged violence. Just a full-blown super-powered warrior from a warrior culture and possessing abilities on nearly the same level as Superman himself. If the former can get away with showing that kind of thing, there's no reason to assume the latter can't. No matter how much you want to keep throwing around your poorly conceived opinion on the matter.
And that shows what exactly? A superior warrior having no trouble taking down security guards is proof that you can't portray a woman in a fair fight? Who the hell has warped logic now?
Well, obviously that's not true or you wouldn't have started crying just because I said I didn't watch Glee.
Apparently you value my input so much that me not being interested in a show you like lessens your enjoyment of it. I'm proud to be such a valuable role model to you.
One movie isn't enough, especially when you look at the controversy it caused. That controversy alone proves me right.
I'll then back that up with the hundreds of examples of increasingly unstoppable female action "heroes" that have come along since the far more realistic and undoubtably far more heroic Ellen Ripley and Sarah Connor.
Still you. One woman beats up several armed guards, all of whom are larger and stronger than her.
Do you know how much good superior warrior training does you when someone twice your size punches you in the face ? None. Bone density doesn't care about how much training you did. Your jaw still breaks. That's why fighting sports have weight classes. That's why they don't put Cristiane Santos or Gina Carano in a cage with Brock Lesnar.
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Superhero movies aren't completely realistic? No shit, I had no idea!
LOL No it doesn't.
Superhero movies aren't completely realistic? No shit, I had no idea!
I did not say they should be completely realistic, only that in order for a person's actions to appear to be heroic they also have to be hard. There has to be a challenge, an enemy that's just as tough, if not more so, than the hero. That's just simple storytelling.
It's the reason why the Rebels get so completely squashed in The Empire Strikes Back, it's why Darth Vader beats Luke. It's why Sarah Connor spends most of The Terminator running for her life.
On the other hand, we have the unfortunate template for the modern action heroine - Red Sonja. A terrible movie to be sure, but too many characters since seem to follow it. In it, the heroine just marches slowly towards her enemy, meets a few people along the way who decide to stick around and then kills her.
If Kick Ass breaks this trope then that's great, I'm pleased, but then the movie did offend a lot of people and was targeted at a more adult audience.
That's not much of an argument. In fact, you just reinforced a key point. People are frightened of seeing female characters lose in fiction. They're offended by the very concept. The problem with that is that it's contrary to portraying a woman as a hero.
