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Howard Stern talks about Lost finale

Agent Richard07

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In short, he bailed on the show a few seasons ago and didn't like the finale.

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I kinda agree with some of what Howard is saying however given that he hadn't watched the show in a few seasons he really doesn't have a basis to criticize.

Fact is LOST did answer questions along the way in S3-5(who was Richard, why didn't he age, what destroyed the statue, how did the Black Rock end up on the island, who was orchestrating all this, who was the mystery woman Des encountered in "Flashes before Your Eyes", who are the Oceanic Six, how do they get off the island, why was Sayid working for Ben, what was Widmore's interest, what was the Purge, when did the Purge occur, who planted the wreckage of flight 815 etc). The problem was the series was set up in such a way that the mysteries would be developed over the years. We started out with big vague major questions and then methodically the writers would add more clues and pieces of the puzzle. Questions were answered with more questions. As I've repeatedly said the show had done an excellent job in S3-5 of laying the groundwork and developing its various mysteries and tying them together but when season 5 ended with "The Incident" it seemed like the writers decided to junk the mythology and all that work was just left incomplete and unfinished or worse they provided unsatisfying answers with regards to MiB, the smoke monster's creation, the Light, the Protector etc. And while S5 was a good step in resolving some of the mystery of the Dharma Initiative I expected more insight into them in season six--Ann Arbor, Hanso, De Groots etc.

They decided to switch back to a character focus--with the apparent logic that this is the final season so we want the audience to get all sentimental. But for me the characters weren't the main draw--the plot/mythology had overwhelmed the show and had become the focus for the last 3 seasons. So I really couldn't get all misty-eyed on characters that were plot devices for so many years. However, I do think that for a lot of viewers/fans of LOST as evidenced by Howard's callers that although they may have watched the show they were not sharp enough to appreciate it and catch all the crossed "t"s and dotted "i"s. I've seen quite a few people just not understanding certain things or expecting answers to questions that had actually already had answers provided.

I will say that 2 weeks out I still feel the final season was mediocre and the finale was merely average and overrated. And as much as I loooooooooooooooooved LOST especially in S3-5 I will say that ending on such a disappointing note as colored my view of it to a certain extent. Right now I'm taking a break from LOST--I felt like I've spent far too much time on it and being in the thick of it that I want to get away from it and maybe rewatch the entire series in a year or two and see if I still feel the same way.
 
I don't understand how someone who hasn't seen the show for a few seasons can watch the finale and criticize...it would be different if he watched all the way through...but Howard just comes off sounding stupid.
 
And you gotta love the so-called LOST expert explaining stuff to Howard and Robin--he acts like he knows everything but he needed to pay closer attention because some of the stuff he was telling them was not totally correct or flat out wrong--i.e. the infertility was the result of the Incident not rules the Others placed upon their members. The only rule as far as mating that we know of was Others weren't suppose to have kids outside of the Others hence Widmore's exile. And young Ben wasn't kidnapped by the Others. And Smokey didn't possess Locke's body as we clearly saw MIB as Locke when Ilana dumped him out of the box and after he was buried on the beach.

The bad thing about shows these days that are like LOST-big ambitious overly complicated epic tv shows--is that they don't do a very good job in clearly explaining stuff explicitly. Instead ta lot of these creators like Moore, L/C, Kring will end up having to explain things in interviews and podcasts when really it should have been that clear and concise in the actual show.
 
There were answers, some people just didn't pay attention, Sorry Howard I normally love ya but your way wrong on this one stick to sex and not being a TV critic ;)
 
Too bad for Howard.
The only thing I feel bad for Howard about is he did miss out on the three biggest, most thrilling, most consistent seasons of television period. S3-5 really did provide great cliffhangers, fun twists, exciting action, memorable visuals(the sight of the statue, the island disappearance, the plane breaking up from the Others pov), answers--yes--answers to questions and some of the most epic storytelling ever in tv history.

But I don't feel bad that he missed this season because it was not very good--a whole bunch of running from camp to camp to drag out the season, boring sideways flashes, boring new characters like Dogen, pointless cameos and returns of minor characters no one cared for like Charlotte Mikhail Keamey Libby Ana Lucia, pointless namedropping like Nikki & Paolo, unfocused character arcs i.e. Sayid the evil one, Claire the crazy one, the horribly handled exit of Ilana complete with no flashback to fill in her backstory or her relationship with Jacob, lame lazy answers to longstanding mysteries i.e. the whispers how Smokey came to be, the mystery of the island turned out to be a butt plug which was fitting given the screwing L/C gave us.

I just can't see how people who watched S4 or 5 could sit here and tell me S6 wasn't very underwhelming and unsatisfactory. L/C were just drifting this season. And the season finales of S3, 4 and 5 were epic exciting payoffs to their respective seasons. This series finale would be pedestrian for a regular weekly episode and for not only a season finale but a series finale it was downright poor.

And all the revisionist history about LOST was about the characters--hogwash. It reminds me of the BS Tim Kring went on about Heroes being a show about the Petrellis. Or Ron Moore's flaccid response to the BSG finale criticism about how it wrapped up the mythology.

Jack and to some lesser extent Sawyer were the only characters that had any sort of satisfying arc this season. The rest were chess pieces and glorified extras--Sayid was a zombie, Claire a mad woman that with a little speech by Kate was her old self in the blink of an eye, MIB was a brat whose sole motivation in killing people was to get off the island and show Mom who was boss, Jacob--had an ill-defined plan, Jin was repeatedly taken hostage by the Others at the Temple then by Claire and then by Widmore, Sun wacked her head and wrote in English her dialogue(I guess you could argue her and Jin's reunion was a longstanding thread but the limp build up to it and the blink-and-you'll-miss it feel of the actual reunion just fell flat for me--they were no Mulder and Scully), Hurley was the resident moron that the writers thought we would find adorable comic relief, Richard's origin story gave us the show's best episode this season but bryond that he wandered around and was offscreen for a good part of the season with Miles and Ben. Frank was a plot device so was Miles--not that I really mind but please don't tout the show then as being great at character arcs this year. Widmore was wasted. Eloise only was seen in the sideways universe. Kate as usual was pining for Sawyer and Jack--yawn. Locke was dead so not much of an arc there.

So yeah I'm comfortable with my lukewarm opinion of the finale. It had a very nice ending if not well earned but it wasn't enough to make up for the anticlimatic Major Fight between MIB and Jack, the idiotic game plan of Jack the Protector to let Des go down there and do exactly what MIB wanted, the long stretchs of boring passages, the contrived feel of the sideways once we learn what they were actually and the underwhelming reveal of the Source/Light.

It was definitely better than a lot of series finales but considering that track record that is damning it with faint praise. This was hardly what I expected from the duo that brought us "Through the Looking Glass", "Theres No Place Like Home" and "The Incident". This season got 18 episodes-which is a lot more than many series get--and instead of making the most of them they just wasted them on stuff nobody was interested in rather than using the time to explore the more interesting mysteries. I don't know how many fans gave a crap about Libby/Hurley or seeing a return by Charlie where he acts like the annoying irritable child he was in season two in episodes like "Fire + Water". So when I saw LOST this year doing the same kind of things I criticized V, Flash Forward, post season one Heroes doing I wasn't going to give them a pass because it was LOST. In fact, LOST had set a higher standard and I was holding this season up to it.
 
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