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I meant that posture and body language (ie. the physical) plays a huge part in projecting an 'appearance' of confidence/intelligence/whatever so I found it kinda redundant when you said 'even' a physical appearance could be changed when it's something that happens organically if all your other shit is in place.
 
Really? You know the preferences of everyone single person on the planet?

It has nothing to do with what other people think...it is what I know to be true. :shrug:

[edit] I don't do anything to make myself feel small or unnoticeable.

There's your problem.

That I know I am ugly? Or I don't do enough to make my self unnoticeable?

That you've convinced yourself that you're unattractive, and therefore, undesireable.

I meant that posture and body language (ie. the physical) plays a huge part in projecting an 'appearance' of confidence/intelligence/whatever.

Oh, right. That's the part where I said one needs to stand up straight and hold your head up and look people in the eye - even smile at people as you walk by.
 
Oh, right. That's the part where I said one needs to stand up straight and hold your head up and look people in the eye - even smile at people as you walk by.
And this is the part when I say that that was in an earlier post that I didn't read.
 
That you've convinced yourself that you're unattractive, and therefore, undesireable.

It is the truth. I have been reminded that I am unattractive and undesirable for many many years by many many sources.
 
How important do you think your appearance is? How do you think it affects the way other people treat you?

I think it is vital. If how you look is the way you choose to represent yourself to the world, then you should try to make the best possible job of it. I don't mean that a person should just try to fit in with other people, out of a feeling of insecurity. But you are constantly judged on how you look, therefore it is in your interests to make sure that you look as good as you can.
Taking a pride in your appearance is part of developing your character, and your own unique identity.

I think my overall appearance is very crucial, and I know how I appear affects people's perception of me.

I'll give you an example that happened to me the other day.

I'm 5 foot 2inches. I wear 2 1/2 to 3 inch heels all the time so that I am able to look people in the eye without looking up. (When I say heel, read dress boots. I don't actually wear "heels". )

The other night, I was talking to a friend whom I have known for almost a decade, and I made the comment that I was tired of not being able to reach the top shelf in my apartment. She asked if they were 7 feet above me or something. I pointed out how short I am. She didn't believe me. She was convinced that I was at least 5 foot 5. In fact, she first said I was 5 foot 7, and I laughed. This is a woman who has seen practically nude. She's been around me when I wasn't wearing my heels. She's had much time to compare height. Yet, she was positive I was much taller.

So, we started talking about why she had this perception.

Height in a person often equals power and success. Think about it. We make fun of short leaders, and France's current leader wears stacked heels because he's short.

I have a very powerful personality. I have been told (though often doubt) that I am a natural leader. I am very assertive. I can be aggressive if the situation calls for it. People I know tend to turn to me when we need something coordinated. If you ever meet me in person, I promise you'll have no problem recognizing me in the crowd. This isn't because I'm stunningly attractive or super fugly. It's my personality. It's how I hold myself... with authority whether I'm trying or not.

Point being, my friend assigned to me in her head the height she thought my personality deserved. Apparently, I deserve about 5 more inches.

I am not an immaculate dresser. I always have a stray hair. I wear glasses. I'm overweight (this is a fact, I'm not downing myself). But, I am well groomed. My clothes always fit me well when I go in public, and I always dress appropriately for whatever the occasion is.

I am careful of my body language. I'm normally very aware of gestures and how I phrase things (because I had to learn how to speak without a East Texan accent).

I present a picture of competence to the world.

I find it important to do so. First impressions make or break deals.

Let me be clear. I've never considered myself attractive. To compensate, I've created a facade of competence. It works for me. It makes me feel strong, and I've managed to have some really strong, intimate relationships because of it.
 
^^ :lol: That's so funny. I'm also 5'2". But, I go through phases between caring how others perceive me, then not caring.

During the 'caring' phases, tho, people have perceived my height as taller than I actually am.
 
It is the truth. I have been reminded that I am unattractive and undesirable for many many years by many many sources.

You're an adult now. You need to start looking at things differently.

If you read ... think it was my first post in this thread, I pointed out that I also had a very deep hole to climb out of.

It takes effort, I'm not trying to pretend it's easy. But, you can do it.
 
I agree with Jenee. It is all about perception. I am rather short for a guy. Being 5'7" puts me at the chest-level with most other men. I also have this tiny soft voice so I usually just vanish when I am in a room full of people. But I have a very big personality so I will make people pay attention to me even if it means crawling up on a table and dancing. I also walk around like I am either in-charge or on a mission. I can part a crowd of people like the Red Sea despite being so small. It really just depends on the situation. Sometimes I am tall. Sometimes I am short. It is all in the way I present myself.


You are a very attractive guy. :D I wouldn't say "ordinary".

Oh you... :alienblush: (I also find you very attractive. And funny too. I still laugh at the pictures of you hanging off of stuff like Spiderman you posted on Facebook. :rommie:)
 
Has anyone here had any cosmetic surgery? I haven't, I (almost certainly) never ever would want to, but I'm really suprised it hasn't come up yet.

Lypo, nose jobs, boob jobs...anyone?
 
^^ :lol: That's so funny. I'm also 5'2". But, I go through phases between caring how others perceive me, then not caring.

During the 'caring' phases, tho, people have perceived my height as taller than I actually am.

Same here. :) I'm 5'2" but people who don't see me often tend to remember me as being a few inches taller. I'm overweight (something I don't grumble about because it's strictly my own doing, and it's up to me to change it) and am talkative, so I stand out if I want to. My height hasn't bothered me for years as there's nothing I can do about it. If I'm in a shop and can't reach something the line "Excuse me, you look like a friendly tall person, can you get that for me, please?" has never failed me yet. :lol:
 
^^ :lol: That's so funny. I'm also 5'2". But, I go through phases between caring how others perceive me, then not caring.

During the 'caring' phases, tho, people have perceived my height as taller than I actually am.

It's less funny because I wish I was taller. :sigh:
 
i actually don't give a rat's ass what people think of my looks. as long as they like me for my personality, i don't care if they don't think i'm as good looking as Pitt, Clooney or Depp.

i do, however, know a lot of people mistakenly think i'm 5-10 years younger than i am.
 
My height hasn't bothered me for years as there's nothing I can do about it. If I'm in a shop and can't reach something the line "Excuse me, you look like a friendly tall person, can you get that for me, please?" has never failed me yet. :lol:

Even better when it's a good looking guy ...

...jus' sayin'.

It's less funny because I wish I was taller. :sigh:

I know. In my next life, I'm going to be taller and blonder.
 
I do like the dark hair I have. But, I could live a smaller bra size. and, in my next life, I'm not going to eat everything I see.
 
Eh, I get by.

The other night, I was talking to a friend whom I have known for almost a decade, and I made the comment that I was tired of not being able to reach the top shelf in my apartment.

I just climb up on the counter. Or, if I'm feeling like an actual adult, I grab the stool I keep around for that purpose. ;)
 
Has anyone here had any cosmetic surgery? I haven't, I (almost certainly) never ever would want to, but I'm really suprised it hasn't come up yet.

Lypo, nose jobs, boob jobs...anyone?


pfft. I won't even wear makeup. I'm certainly not putting myself under the knife.
 
I don't wear make up, but ... I have considered, maybe thinking about someday flirting with the possibilty of a face lift.
 
I have thought about having my nose put back together. The first time I broke it really didn't do much. The second time messed up my sinuses pretty bad. I get infections at the drop of a hat now and my septum is deviated. But my reasoning isn't cosmetic though. Does that count?
 
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