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bad FX shots...

* The shape shifting effects in TNG's The Dauphin.

* Ent-D's blue bussard collectors as the Q barrier surrounds the ship in Encounter At Farpoint.

* When the Ent-A warps away from a torpedo in The Final Frontier.

* Various fleet battles in DS9. Has the obvious CGI look.

* The disintergration effect as Captain Terrell shoots himself in TWOK . He turned a strange colour beforehand.
 
* When the Ent-A warps away from a torpedo in The Final Frontier.
I don't know if this is a example of a bad FX, but when the Enterprise moves out the torpedo passed fairly close behind it, why didn't it detonate at it closest point?

Or turn and strike the Enterprise's fantail.

Or turn and chase the Enterprise into warp like the Romulan fireball did in "Balance of Terror?"

Or not just blissfully continue on it way like a torpedo from a 1915 Uboot.
 
* The shape shifting effects in TNG's The Dauphin.

* Ent-D's blue bussard collectors as the Q barrier surrounds the ship in Encounter At Farpoint.

* When the Ent-A warps away from a torpedo in The Final Frontier.

* Various fleet battles in DS9. Has the obvious CGI look.

* The disintergration effect as Captain Terrell shoots himself in TWOK . He turned a strange colour beforehand.

These are all good picks. But the DS9 space effects, even though CGI, were, I think, better than NEMESIS's FX which I find amazing...

Rob
 
The explosions in TNG. Suddenly a fireball appears on the ship and it disappears. wat

yeah...looking back on it now i agee...nothing againt TNG, but to me many of TOS's effects are superior to the first two seaons of TNG effect and this is, what, nearly twenty years after tos went off the air....why the step backwards?

Rob
 
I totally agree. But there are many on this site who think NEMESIS's effects were awesome. Not me. Every FX shot in that movie (insurrection) was so bad, it kept taking me "out of " the movie experience. Terrible...just terrible.

Rob
 
Am I the only one who thinks the VFX in Insurrection look good?

Nemesis looks good, too. Even though the shots are uninspired and dull, they are still high quality.
 
Am I the only one who thinks the VFX in Insurrection look good?

Nemesis looks good, too. Even though the shots are uninspired and dull, they are still high quality.

No, you're not the only one. I didn't see any glaringly bad FX in either film. :shrug:
 
^^^^I often find that when some people don't like a movie, all of a sudden all aspects of that movie are terrible, such as special effects, music, costuming, etc.
 
The shot of a rather dinky looking Excelsior as it's about to be hit by the Praxis shockwave at the start of Star Trek VI stands out to me as one of the worst FX moments in Trek - moreso because it happens in a motion picture.
 
Agreed about the visual f/x in TFF and INS. The work done in NEM was a definite improvement over the previous film, but it did have that flat "CGI" look to it, as well. The best Trek feature films had their main work done by ILM and used primarily model miniatures. You just can't top that.
 
^^^^I often find that when some people don't like a movie, all of a sudden all aspects of that movie are terrible, such as special effects, music, costuming, etc.

^^
I often find when some people defend a weak movie, all of a sudden aspects of that movie are better than they really were. Such as FX, music...costumes too.
 
^^^^I often find that when some people don't like a movie, all of a sudden all aspects of that movie are terrible, such as special effects, music, costuming, etc.

^^
I often find when some people defend a weak movie, all of a sudden aspects of that movie are better than they really were. Such as FX, music...costumes too.

OK ppl, settle down. It is a matter of opinion. I find that it is about quantity vs quality. IMHO the models were way better than the CGI, but for the most part the CG effects were terrible as compared to now. So in a sense they have improved phaser blasts but have made ships look worse.

I always hated in voyager mostly the ploom of fire that would shoot at ppl in corridors and jeffries tubes.

I also hated in mid DS9 and early voyager when they tried to improve the ship explosions by streaking flames out from the ships, but to me it looked worse.
 
IMHO the models were way better than the CGI, but for the most part the CG effects were terrible as compared to now. So in a sense they have improved phaser blasts but have made ships look worse.

So how did you like the VFX in First Contact? :devil:
 
The problem I have with Nemesis, and not so much with Insurrection, is the fact it came out, what, in 2003? A full four years after Phantom Menace and yet the CGI looked no better than stuff from the mid 90s, IMO.

The cartoony looking effects of nemesis were unacceptable. Perhaps its because I am so old and use to real effects. But the movements of the ships in NEMESIS, and the strange glassy look, just ruined it for me.

Rob
 
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