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Silent Letters

I have never heard an Australian drop the H in historical though I used to now one old woman who would drop it in herb.



I say 'haitch' instead of 'aitch'. I also say 'hopen' instead of 'open' but I always put that down to the speech defect I had as a child. Certainly most people I know don't do it.

In the 60s & 70s at school in NSW, you could tell which kids transferred fromCAtholic school as they nearly all said "haitch".

Maybe one of my speech therapists went to a Catholic school and I picked it up from her. I had speech therapy from 1963 to 1968, and again for a year or so as a teenager (mainly because as a teenager I was still unable to make the 'th' sound).
 
I've lived, and have rellies in several states here. In my experience, dropping the “h” is not usual in Australian speech.
Rellies? Never heard that one before.

You Aussies have a lot of colorful slang, but that habit of shortening words and tacking on a diminutive ending makes Australian speech sound rather childish to American ears.
 
Australians do that to many words

Relatives become rellies
Firemen become firies
Ambulance men become ambos
Cigarettes become ciggies
 
I've lived, and have rellies in several states here. In my experience, dropping the “h” is not usual in Australian speech.
Rellies? Never heard that one before.

You Aussies have a lot of colorful slang, but that habit of shortening words and tacking on a diminutive ending makes Australian speech sound rather childish to American ears.
if you shorten words, and say them without opening your mouth too wide, the blow flies don't have a chance.....





:roflmao:



If you believe that, I have a nice Opera House for sale :guffaw::guffaw:

And they close the Harbour Bridge at 3 pm every day to allow the kangaroos to cross.
 
"I saw a movie" sounds like "I sore a movie."

That's how "saw" is pronounced here too, rhymes with "core"

Just as glass is pronounced glarse,
" " class " clarse etc
vase " varse.

But words with -ance are pronouced with a short "a" sound except in SA where they are more likely to be "-arnce / -ahnce"
 
I'm having one of those :confused: moments - how can you pronounce "Saw" so that it doesn't sound like "sore".

Anyway, speaking of silent letters and everything - can anyone tell me why Americans tend to pronounce "herb" as "erb", it sounds so weird to me.
 
I'm having one of those :confused: moments - how can you pronounce "Saw" so that it doesn't sound like "sore".

Anyway, speaking of silent letters and everything - can anyone tell me why Americans tend to pronounce "herb" as "erb", it sounds so weird to me.

Something funny with the vowel sound. Closest I can come to (Linguistics/Speech pathology not being my area) "sahw"

He, he ,he... I loved being told how Aussies pronounce words beginning with "h". I've only lived here for 49 yrs.

Dropping "h" s in Aussie English is seen as laziness or a sign of poor education (unless your first language is a LOTE).
 
I'm having one of those :confused: moments - how can you pronounce "Saw" so that it doesn't sound like "sore".

Are you serious? :wtf:

How do you pronounce the word "awe," like in Awesome? Do you saw "Orsome?" Or "I'm in awe of that really awesome thing."

Just slap an S on the front.
 
Silent letters are the language equivalent of the Weak Nuclear Force. They never matter until they do...
 
I'm having one of those :confused: moments - how can you pronounce "Saw" so that it doesn't sound like "sore".

Are you serious? :wtf:

How do you pronounce the word "awe," like in Awesome? Do you saw "Orsome?" Or "I'm in awe of that really awesome thing."
Tautology much? If something is "awesome", then surely you are in awe of it? Otherwise, it's ordinary.

Just slap an S on the front.

On reflection, we pronounce it "Or-sum".
 
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I assume you're referring to the habit of interpolating an R sound between words, so that "no idea of" sounds like "no idear of" and "I saw a movie" sounds like "I sore a movie." It's a way of making the words more distinctly separate and is not necessarily considered incorrect.

It's called 'intrusive r' and the English use it. I'm assuming Aussies and New Zealanders too. It's to differentiate between a word ending in a vowel and the next word beginning in a vowel, thus producing the ubiquitous fictional character Laura Norder.

The Scots don't use it, preferring the equally energetic and inelegant glottal plosive, and for some misplaced logic (otherwise known as pig ignorance) sneer at intrusive r.
 
I'm having one of those :confused: moments - how can you pronounce “Saw” so that it doesn't sound like “sore”.
Depends on the dialect. In standard American English, postvocalic R is pronounced much the same way as in the West Country dialect of England.* Most Brits, as well as American Southerners and New Englanders, soften or drop the postvocalic R so that, for example, “floor” and “flaw” sound exactly the same.
Anyway, speaking of silent letters and everything - can anyone tell me why Americans tend to pronounce “herb” as “erb”, it sounds so weird to me.
We call herbs “erbs” because Herb is a guy's name!

*In fact, the biggest mistake British actors usually make when they try to sound American is overdoing their R’s, so they sound more like they're from Cornwall.
 
I'm having one of those :confused: moments - how can you pronounce "Saw" so that it doesn't sound like "sore".

Are you serious? :wtf:

How do you pronounce the word "awe," like in Awesome? Do you saw "Orsome?" Or "I'm in awe of that really awesome thing."
Tautology much? If something is "awesome", then surely you are in awe of it? Otherwise, it's ordinary.
I never said it wasn't redundant.

Just slap an S on the front.

On reflection, we pronounce it "Or-sum".
Well, that's weird. :lol:

What about "saw" like the tool? "I am using a saw to cut this piece of wood." Do you still say "sore?"
 
There's a rule in linguistics that says that every letter present in the spelling of a word had to be pronounced at one point. If they're still visible today it's mainly because print fixated language.
For instance, words such as which and whale used to be written hwic and hwal. The "h" consonant was really stressed. Later, in order to facilitate pronunciation, the 'w' and 'h' switched places.
 
Are you serious? :wtf:

How do you pronounce the word "awe," like in Awesome? Do you saw "Orsome?" Or "I'm in awe of that really awesome thing."
Tautology much? If something is "awesome", then surely you are in awe of it? Otherwise, it's ordinary.
I never said it wasn't redundant.

Just slap an S on the front.

On reflection, we pronounce it "Or-sum".
Well, that's weird. :lol:

What about "saw" like the tool? "I am using a saw to cut this piece of wood." Do you still say "sore?"


Yep
 
:lol: Maybe I'm just an Aussie in disguise :D

I still can't see how you can pronounce it any other way!

I shall have to see how little miss trampledamage says "saw" - she has a Canadian accent and already says some words in ways I can't copy.
 
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