5x03 Victory of the Daleks (Grading/Discussion) SPOILERS!

[The Wormhole]

Another thought just occurred to me. Was there a real Bracewell that the Daleks replaced with their robot, or did they actually fabricate those memories themselves?

 

[David cgc]

The Doctor speculated they stole the memories. They likely killed the original, probably in the process of scanning his brain (it wasn't the safest of procedures back in "Doomsday"). Macabre as it is, that's probably better for the Bracewell-Bot. He wouldn't have another man already living his life.

 

[Snaploud]

The Doctor speculated they stole the memories. They likely killed the original, probably in the process of scanning his brain (it wasn't the safest of procedures back in "Doomsday"). Macabre as it is, that's probably better for the Bracewell-Bot. He wouldn't have another man already living his life.

I wonder if the girl of his dreams was an implanted memory. That would be quite a shock (possibly setting off the bomb?).

 

[EJA]

Don't know if this has already been asked or not, but how was Churchill able to contact the Doctor so easily? After all, telephones in the 1930s-40s weren't anything like mobile phones of the 21st century.

 

[Bones2]

Don't know if this has already been asked or not, but how was Churchill able to contact the Doctor so easily? After all, telephones in the 1930s-40s weren't anything like mobile phones of the 21st century.

That's a good point. But I'm sure if the answer was shown on screen, it'd amount to the Doctor holding his sonic screwdriver to the receiver for three seconds and saying "Give me a bell if you need anything Winnie...". Lets just imagine he built a something instead.

 

[Captain Pike]

Doesn't the Brigadier have a similar hotline to the Doctor? I seem to remember at the start of Terror of the Zygons that the Doctor mentions being called to that time and place by the Brigadier..

 

[The Wormhole]

Don't know if this has already been asked or not, but how was Churchill able to contact the Doctor so easily? After all, telephones in the 1930s-40s weren't anything like mobile phones of the 21st century.

Churchill knows the Doctor's phone number. You don't need a 21st century cell phone to call the TARDIS phone, you just need any phone, and to know the number.

I'm sure if he knew the number, Alexander Graham Bell could call the Doctor...

 

[The Borgified Corpse]

^Perhaps that's what the 1st phone call was really about. "Watson" was one of the Doctor's aliases.

 

[Captain Pike]

Graham Bell was a cad. He stole that invention off Elisha Grey (or, depending on which source you believe, a whole bunch of other people). Bell was just lucky enough to be the first to patent it.

 

[Snaploud]

Don't know if this has already been asked or not, but how was Churchill able to contact the Doctor so easily? After all, telephones in the 1930s-40s weren't anything like mobile phones of the 21st century.

That's a good point. But I'm sure if the answer was shown on screen, it'd amount to the Doctor holding his sonic screwdriver to the receiver for three seconds and saying "Give me a bell if you need anything Winnie...". Lets just imagine he built a something instead.

Modern cellphones aren't sophisticated enough to reach through time either. Sure, they're vastly more complicated than the phones of the 1940s, but you would still have to add in some "sonic-created magic component" to make it work that way.

 

[Peacemaker]

Don't know if this has already been asked or not, but how was Churchill able to contact the Doctor so easily? After all, telephones in the 1930s-40s weren't anything like mobile phones of the 21st century.

That's a good point. But I'm sure if the answer was shown on screen, it'd amount to the Doctor holding his sonic screwdriver to the receiver for three seconds and saying "Give me a bell if you need anything Winnie...". Lets just imagine he built a something instead.

Modern cellphones aren't sophisticated enough to reach through time either. Sure, they're vastly more complicated than the phones of the 1940s, but you would still have to add in some "sonic-created magic component" to make it work that way.

Ah...jiggery-pokery

 

[Captain Pike]

What if the TARDIS, wherever and whenever it is, constantly scans the Earth phone networks of the 20th and 21st centuries for anyone dialing a certain number?

 

[I am not Spock]

I thought the episode was pretty good. Even those new Daleks didn't look too bad in action (looking forward to the action figures). I wasn't thrilled with the actor who portrayed Churchill, and wasn't the robot actor previously seen back in Series 2 as the right-hand man of the Cybus guy? Hm, associating with both Cybermen and Daleks, hmm. oh, and I liked Amy's new outfit too.

Oh, me too!

 

[Starkers]

What if the TARDIS, wherever and whenever it is, constantly scans the Earth phone networks of the 20th and 21st centuries for anyone dialing a certain number?

That makes some sense, but then how would the 11th Doctor pick up Churchill's call while the 10's got Martha's?

I guess mybe Winnie had a generic all Doctors number whilst Martha obviosly had some kind of Tennant only line

 

[The Mirrorball Man]

That makes some sense, but then how would the 11th Doctor pick up Churchill's call while the 10's got Martha's?

The caller stays relative to the Doctor within the causal nexus?

 

[Starkers]

So how come River doesn't stay relative to the Doctor?

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

So how come River doesn't stay relative to the Doctor?

Wibbly Wobbly Timey Whimey.

 

[Bones2]

So how come River doesn't stay relative to the Doctor?

Because she's not ringing him up on the phone.

 

[Sci]

I'm sure the Doctor specifically put an advanced piece of TARDIS tech onto Churchill's phone to let it transmit through time. The whatsawhosits he added to the phone is probably designed to stay linked to the Doctor somehow and transmit the phone call to the point in the Doctor's relative timeline equal in length from the point of installation as the time from installation at which the call is being placed.

 

[Anji]

You all are picking up on the inconsistancies that occur whenever Doctor Who does a historical. Historicals are difficult and I'm not sure how much experience this writer has so I'm willing to overlook the problems this episode has.

Otherwise I enjoyed it. Not as good at Eleventh and Beast, but you can't keep up the momentum those episodes had.

Four stars to Karen and Matt.