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what does kickass box office performance mean for comic movies?

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When it came out it barely beat out How to train a dragon, a movie that had already been out for like a month. And now it's just sort of disappeared into -5 place.

I don't get it -- this movie easily had the best action of the year so far, great performances by the ensemble cast, vaughn channeling his quentin tarantino!

It couldn't have been because of lack of starpower since it had nicholas cage. It also can't be a lack of promotion -- trailers and ads were smattered all over the place prior to its release.

The movie didn't bomb, it just wasn't close to reaching where the studios wanted it to go. What happened?
 
It means... nothing. It was a medium budget film on a R certificate using characters nobody had heard of.
 
The whole "adult-themed comic movie" genre seems to more or less under-perform, aside from maybe 300 (I didn't like it so much). I'm talking more Kick-Ass, Watchmen, Surrogates, The Losers, a few others.
 
Well, Kick-Ass was also marketed as a superhero comedy, and superhero comedies don't have the best track record (Mystery Men being an example, which opened to $10 million when it debuted... Hancock being the exception because it was a Will Smith movie). The advertisements, that weren't red-band trailers, gave the film an admittedly cutesy Spy Kids vibe that honestly wasn't indicative of what the film was at all about.

Industry analysts and studio executives were hoping for Kick-Ass to mirror the success of Zombieland, which was a surprise success because normally horror comedies aren't that successful. Kick-Ass had a lot of hype going for it, and people were expecting it to do big numbers based on the huge hype, but Internet hype has not always yielded the best results (I'm looking at you, Snakes on a Plane). However, Kick-Ass actually mirrors the success of 2004's The Punisher, another R-rated superhero film with a star (John Travolta in place of Nicholas Cage) and a strong adherence to violence and action. Both films have made similar money, but the obvious difference is that Kick-Ass is actually leaps and bounds better than The Punisher and has a satirical edge that Punisher obviously lacked.

Bottomline, Kick-Ass is a moderate success. The film was financed by investors, having been made outside of the studio system, and the estimated production budget was around $30 million. Lionsgate bought the film for $45 million, which not only reimbursed the investors, gave them a return on their investment, it also put some money back into Matthew Vaughn's wallet, who also contributed financially to the budget. So at the end of the day, Kick-Ass already earned back its budget before it was even released, and the film has earned almost $70 million worldwide. So the only party that might not make a profit is Lionsgate, which is immaterial since if Vaughn makes Kick-Ass 2 (providing he does) outside of the studio system like he did with the first film, he already has a successful formula to gain money again, but the real trick might be getting distribution. However, Kick-Ass should be moderately successful for Lionsgate, with the reciepts surely at the very least allowing them to earn back their costs for marketing. They might not turn a profit, though, so they could be leery about purchasing the distribution rights for a sequel, but there are other studios out there that could be just as willing.

What does this mean for comic-book movies? If anything, R-rated comic-book movies haven't been proven success stories (both Punisher films, The Losers, Watchmen) so studios might be more leery to willingly distribute or finance comic-book movies that aren't PG-13. It is possible the PG-13 rating limited the box office audience of Kick-Ass. I don't think it'll negatively impact the comic-book subgenre as a whole, though. We'll still be seeing more Batman and Spider-Man movies so long as they're successful.
 
I think it did fine. I don't understand why anybody thought this was going to be a blockbuster.
 
The lesson from Kick-Ass is simple.

When you make a movie aimed squarely at teenage boys do not make it a hard "R" that they cannot go see. No movie I can think of has ever succeeded with that strategy.

But as already said, Kick-Ass is not really a flop or a bomb, it was cheap to make and it'll recoup its budget if it hasn't already, and I can see it being a decent DVD hit, seeing that those teenage boys who wanted to see it the first place will finally be able to, plus the fantastic word of mouth it has will help.

I know that I'll probably get it on DVD.
 
What does this mean for comic-book movies? If anything, R-rated comic-book movies haven't been proven success stories (both Punisher films, The Losers, Watchmen) so studios might be more leery to willingly distribute or finance comic-book movies that aren't PG-13. It is possible the PG-13 rating limited the box office audience of Kick-Ass. I don't think it'll negatively impact the comic-book subgenre as a whole, though. We'll still be seeing more Batman and Spider-Man movies so long as they're successful.

Just to be pedantic, I believe The Losers is PG-13.
 
What does this mean for comic-book movies? If anything, R-rated comic-book movies haven't been proven success stories (both Punisher films, The Losers, Watchmen) so studios might be more leery to willingly distribute or finance comic-book movies that aren't PG-13. It is possible the PG-13 rating limited the box office audience of Kick-Ass. I don't think it'll negatively impact the comic-book subgenre as a whole, though. We'll still be seeing more Batman and Spider-Man movies so long as they're successful.

Just to be pedantic, I believe The Losers is PG-13.

And Blade really began the comic book movie revival.
 
What does this mean for comic-book movies? If anything, R-rated comic-book movies haven't been proven success stories (both Punisher films, The Losers, Watchmen) so studios might be more leery to willingly distribute or finance comic-book movies that aren't PG-13. It is possible the PG-13 rating limited the box office audience of Kick-Ass. I don't think it'll negatively impact the comic-book subgenre as a whole, though. We'll still be seeing more Batman and Spider-Man movies so long as they're successful.

Just to be pedantic, I believe The Losers is PG-13.

Yeah, The Losers was PG-13. I think the problem with this one was that it looked like a cheap A-Team knock-off.

It was also pretty bad. Trust me...avoid The Losers. Kick-Ass I really liked, but I think it was the R rating that hurt it and lack of brand recognition and a clear focus in its trailers besides showing a couple jokes and lots of action.

Who knows. It may also have to do with how poorly received The Watchmen was. Kick-Ass could be seen as a comedy version of that by some people.
 
It doesn't mean anything for comic book movies. The way "Kick-Ass" was being marketed as Jackson Archer stated along with the fact that it more than likely wasn't a well known comic book property aside from the small legion of hardcore fans that were aware of the book (like myself) and the original poster and perhaps others in this thread...meant that it was never going to achieve blockbuster status. I had a feeling that it wouldn't do that well at the box office but was hopeful that maybe it would find it's niche and maybe be a word of mouth movie but even that doesn't seem like it will happen now. I predict that it will be out of the top ten by the end of next weekend with "Nightmare on Elm Street" opening this weekend and "Iron Man 2" opening next weekend "Kick-Ass" will be pushed out. Kind of disappointed myself because I wanted it do well but as Jackson stated...it has been a moderate success for the filmmakers and it has been critically acclaimed by critics. I'll be buying the DVD for one. It's my favorite movie of the year so far.
 
It's going to be a typical cult classic; an under performer at the box office, but a monster in DVD/etc. sales as time goes on and word of mouth spreads. That was pretty obvious from the start. It'll be up there with Army of Darkness and Boondock Saints.
 
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