What if Star Trek on TV ended with Next Generation?
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Why do you think that. Please enlighten us? Are you saying Generations, First Contact, Insurrection and Nemesis would have been better if DS9 and Voyager didn't happen?
The litttle tidbit about The So'na making White for the Doms made Insurrection 13% more awesome instantly. The Defiant turning up at the Borg battle raised FC's awesomeness level by 8.4 %. So no.
Trek ending with DS9 or VOY-and no more movies after FC...yeah that would have been awesome.
Trek ending with DS9 or VOY-and no more movies after FC...yeah that would have been awesome.
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No DS9? Nah.
No debates about ENT? No discussions about VOY's EMH being the best character in the show? No shoulda Sisko been a captain from the start threads?
The thought is simply unbearable to contemplate...
The thought is simply unbearable to contemplate...
Well I'm talking more on the TV side then anything.
TNG was the monster hit ,and I may be wrong but from DS9 on ratings began to drop.
And I'm a big fan of DS9 ,but Voyager could have been better.
So ending it with DS9 would be ok too.
Considering some of the worst Trek ever came from TNG movies I'm glad we got DS9, VOY and ENT. Yes, ratings begins to drop fast with DS9 but I consider three other factors.
The later series never had the distribution that TNG had.
The later series never had the build up or the advantage of Trek hungry fans that TNG had.
25 seasons in a short time was too much for the average person to stay interested.
I think the fact that the best series of the bunch (DS9 IMHO) had the biggest ratings drop shows how factors other can quality can effect a show.
The later series never had the distribution that TNG had.
The later series never had the build up or the advantage of Trek hungry fans that TNG had.
25 seasons in a short time was too much for the average person to stay interested.
I think the fact that the best series of the bunch (DS9 IMHO) had the biggest ratings drop shows how factors other can quality can effect a show.
^It might have improved the execution of the movies some, although the basic premises of the films are premises that never should have been turned into films in the first place. Truly, one of the core mistakes of the TNG films was letting TV people try to make them, instead of filmmakers.* Just freeing up Brannon Braga's time probably wouldn't have made Generations' screenplay much better (and anyway, to the best of my knowledge the other series weren't the time management problems there, TNG itself was!), and what was Johnathan Frakes doing on DS9 or Voyager that took his attention away from directing schlock in First Contact?
*Even if for whatever reason this mostly worked in the TOS films. Go figure.
Actually, the best thing for the TNG films would have been to wait a good while between All Good Things (which, incredibly, is ten times the movie of all the rest put together all by itself) and Generations.
*Even if for whatever reason this mostly worked in the TOS films. Go figure.
Actually, the best thing for the TNG films would have been to wait a good while between All Good Things (which, incredibly, is ten times the movie of all the rest put together all by itself) and Generations.
I'd miss a lot of what came after even though I was unimpressed with the majority of it...half of DS9, most of VOY, almost all of ENT, half of GEN, parts of FC, practically all of INS and NEM.
Maybe they'd get filmmakers to bring TNG to the big screen as they do with other properties. This could mean a lot of changes for my favorite series that I wouldn't necessarily like. But, yeah, for the purpose of this thread, I could imagine Trek's top series being brought to the big screen in spectacular fashion in some alternate universe. Though, they were already making TOS movies, so it isn't as though Trek would be some small property no one around ever worked on that was event-movie-ified like with the latest movie. ...Harrumph - they had to do everything wrong before they did something right.
In the best of all possible worlds, regardless of what happened on the small screen, TNG got 7 wonderful movies, each focusing on each of the main characters, each giving the big-screen treatment to a big story from the series...the Borg hive-mind, Vulcan reunification, Riker's own command, Riker/Troi, Picard/Crusher, the Conspiracy aliens, Data's ultimate humanity, etc etc...and of course, Q's "unknown possibilities of existence."
Maybe they'd get filmmakers to bring TNG to the big screen as they do with other properties. This could mean a lot of changes for my favorite series that I wouldn't necessarily like. But, yeah, for the purpose of this thread, I could imagine Trek's top series being brought to the big screen in spectacular fashion in some alternate universe. Though, they were already making TOS movies, so it isn't as though Trek would be some small property no one around ever worked on that was event-movie-ified like with the latest movie. ...Harrumph - they had to do everything wrong before they did something right.
In the best of all possible worlds, regardless of what happened on the small screen, TNG got 7 wonderful movies, each focusing on each of the main characters, each giving the big-screen treatment to a big story from the series...the Borg hive-mind, Vulcan reunification, Riker's own command, Riker/Troi, Picard/Crusher, the Conspiracy aliens, Data's ultimate humanity, etc etc...and of course, Q's "unknown possibilities of existence."
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I probably wouldn't have become a Trek fan in the first place, since DS9 was what attracted me to the franchise in the first place.
The franchise would have a few hundred less great episodes, and I'm not sure what the gain would be. One more mediocre TNG movie? One less mediocre TNG movie?
The franchise would have a few hundred less great episodes, and I'm not sure what the gain would be. One more mediocre TNG movie? One less mediocre TNG movie?
We would've missed out on a lot of quality stories and some of the most memorable characters of the franchise. Yes, TNG was special but I don't think ending with it would've done anything for the franchise.
I would have been a disappointed teenager thinking there would be no more Trek and I would have to settle for the movies and TNG (Before I watched the original). Now if Trek had ended it's TV run after DS9, I might not have minded that but I liked Voyager so I'm glad that series was able to run its' course.
Agreed.
Things on this planet, and my overall level of happiness, both very important, would be about the same.
What if food development stopped before getting to pizza? Now THAT one would be a major dealio, but plus or minus a coupla tv shows? Nah. And I like DS9 and VOY.
What if the studio hadn't bumped GR upstairs and he continued making the movies?
What if food development stopped before getting to pizza? Now THAT one would be a major dealio, but plus or minus a coupla tv shows? Nah. And I like DS9 and VOY.
What if the studio hadn't bumped GR upstairs and he continued making the movies?
And if there had never been any Star Trek, we wouldn't have missed what we had never seen.
How about: TNG never goes to movies, there is no "Insurrection" or "Nemesis", there is no Borg Queen nonsense, and TNG gets to end on a high note and a lot more respect with "All Good Things"; meanwhile, DS9 gets made, and Star Trek franchise gets to end - if it ends there - on a high note and respect.
*shudder* Are you trying to give me nightmares?What if Star Trek on TV ended with Next Generation?
We can only dream...
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