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5x04 The Time of Angels (Grading/Discussion) (SPOILERS!!)

What are your thoughts about the episode?


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I enjoyed this episode but I did not find he angels as scary as the first time I saw them.
Feeling stupid for not stupid for not spotting that the statues only had one head earlier and I could not believe that the BBC decided to put a logo for that OZ show on just when he was doing his big speech.:brickwall:
 
But near the end of the episode it really lost steam and started to feel like Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead part 2 (or should I make that 3). We had:

1) River
2) Dead minor character's voice being used by the 'monster'.
3) Stay out of the dark!

It all felt very samey-samey by the end. And the cliffhanger was not half as good as "Donna Noble has been saved." Not even close.

But next weeks episode looks good, so here's hoping it ends strong.

Also Amy asking the doctor to leave her and then him saying "Time can be rewritten"
 
Thought this was far better than the last couple of week's, but wasn't as bowled over as some people seem to have been. The Angels weren't nearly as scary as in Blink - and that bit with the video had more than a whiff of Ring about it - and once they started in the caves there felt like it was all padded out a bit.

Far better performance from Smith though, amazing given this was the first one he filmed - this was more Eleventh Doctor than Beast Below and VotD and I was back to feeling he was the Doctor. Still not sold on Amy, Karen's performance is perfectly fine but the character herself is just meh at the moment - she's young, she's frisky, a bit cheeky, that's about it.

What was with the BBC announcer mentioning the ratings for VotD? Very odd.
 
FUCK YEAH, THAT'S MORE LIKE IT!!!

This is where Moffat's first season gets into very high gear, after a decent opening episode and two OK-ish, but vaguely underwhelming filler ones. "The Beast Below" and "Victory of Daleks" really suffered from having 90 minutes of storylines compressed down into 45 minutes, while also feeling like hand-me-downs from the later Tennant era.

Now "The Time of Angels" is a fantastic epic, easily Moffat's best two parter since Season One, having the right mix of large-ish scale action set pieces of the RTD era combined with the intimate suspense/mystery of Moffat's earlier stories. I gave it a "5".
 
Thought this was far better than the last couple of week's, but wasn't as bowled over as some people seem to have been. The Angels weren't nearly as scary as in Blink - and that bit with the video had more than a whiff of Ring about it - and once they started in the caves there felt like it was all padded out a bit.

Far better performance from Smith though, amazing given this was the first one he filmed - this was more Eleventh Doctor than Beast Below and VotD and I was back to feeling he was the Doctor. Still not sold on Amy, Karen's performance is perfectly fine but the character herself is just meh at the moment - she's young, she's frisky, a bit cheeky, that's about it.

With the exception of the fact I am sold on Amy, I pretty much agree. Matt Smith felt more The Doctor-ish then he has in previous episodes, which is good given he's easily the weakest thing about this season for me so far. With Alex Kingston in this episode he could have easily be severly outclassed.

Loved the opening heist. There was something very Blakes-7-with-a-budget about it for me. Though I'm still unsure why River was after the angel. Or indeed the church for that matter (A church with guns - almost as scary as the angels).

I did wonder why the Doctor was going on about them having two heads, if the statues had only one. Wrote it off as in-house error by the props dept. Very glad there was an in-universe explanation!

If Nortons going to be popping up, I think I will be watching via I-player, which is advert free.

I had only two gripes, the museum looked like like they had just stuck a couple of display cases in my local church and the cliffhanger was a bit weak, other than that it was very good. Looking forward to next week for more River Song, Angels and apparently cracks in the universe.
 
Pretty good episode, although the Angels weren't nearly as scary as in Blink, except for the bit with Amy trapped in the TV room. That was well played, as was River's introduction.

The episode slowed down halfway through, and the cliffhanger was ruined for me by BBC putting up a banner for Over the Rainbow at the bottom of the screen, which really distracted me from the Doctor's trap line. Other than that, decent cliffhanger, but not the best I've seen. It felt too much like the Library 2-parter, what with dead Bob's voice, etc.

Also, if I didn't know any better, I'd say the Church's army is the forerunner of Warhammer 40K's Space Marines.
 
the museum looked like like they had just stuck a couple of display cases in my local church

I thought that, too. A shame, really, since Cardiff has a fabulous museum. Maybe they just couldn't film there for whatever reason.
 
Norton appears to have a bad habit of ruining Doctor Who climaxes, he managed to screw up the climax of 'Rose' too when the Beeb turned his mic on too early.

As for the episode, i enjoyed it more that its lacklustre predecessor and it did a good job of building on the creepy vibe of the weeping angels last appearance.
 
Excellent. I hope the second part keeps this up.
I may have missed something, but why did the angle kill the first two soldiers instead of "time zapping" them?
 
I may have missed something, but why did the angle kill the first two soldiers instead of "time zapping" them?

I think that's still unresolved. The Doctor wondered about that as well and concluded that they needed the bodies for something. They could also be too weak to do that. I guess we'll find out in the second part.

I greatly enjoyed this episode. Nice too see the 'trap' dialogue in context. And the scene between River and the Doctor in the TARDIS worked much better than the trailer sugested. Amy and River go together well. Matt Smith was great in this, I think. Seems like I'm warming up to him. Maybe Moffat should stick to two-parters. :)
 
People on Gallifrey are not happy about the Logo.
http://gallifreybase.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47238


Which is different from the normal state of the bedwetters over there in what way?
I know but to be fair to them even Charlie Brooker agrees with them.
Why don't the BBC just wipe shit all over the screen during the final scene of Dr. Who next week?
:lol:
http://twitter.com/charltonbrooker

Sounds like a good enough description of any form of Graham Norton...
 
Did anybody else send a complaint to the BBC about that very, very annoying and very, very unnecessary and very, very badly timed pop-up featuring a cartoon Graham Norton? Lord shit, they should fire the cuntbag responsible for that kind of US broadcasting level of deadbrain idiocy (it's bad enough with the end credits being crushed by pointless trailers and promos).
 
Did anybody else send a complaint to the BBC about that very, very annoying and very, very unnecessary and very, very badly timed pop-up featuring a cartoon Graham Norton? Lord shit, they should fire the cuntbag responsible for that kind of US broadcasting level of deadbrain idiocy (it's bad enough with the end credits being crushed by pointless trailers and promos).
I am going to send my complaint in the form of a letter.
 
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