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Snakey conduits in final FC engineering fight: who commanded them?

Sisko_is_my_captain

Sisko_is_my_captain

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So Data has just blown out the plasma coolant tank and Picard is heading higher up in engineering. Some borgified conduits hiss and start moving, snakelike, towards Picard. The Captain then grabs ahold of them and starts climbing.

The question: did Picard summon the conduits? If the Borg Queen did, you'd expect them to be bucking or choking him, trying to fight him. But the conduits reach down and make for handy dandy handholds for Picard. I contend that through his connection to the Collective, Picard, consciously or not, summoned the conduits to his aid.

Discuss. :borg:
 
I just watched FC again Saturday night. It seemed to me that the Borg queen shot a look up at the conduits and they began moving down. It looked as if she was going to climb up them but Picard cut her off.
On another note. I still think that the Enterprise left too quickly at the end. There was virtually no time for them to replace the reflector dish. I assume that they had a spare for such a critical part.
 
Rob, great point, you know in the dozens of times I've watched it the issue of how easy it was for them to get back to the present at the end always bothered me, but I never stopped to think that they would have to replace the deflector dish...

I think the whole dish sub-plot is the worst part of FC and really hurts the movie. The EVA scene is slow and very boring in my opinion, and if they had come up with a more dynamic action scene, FC may be higher on my list of fave Trek films. I hate bad zero gravity stuff in movies, and it just looks cheesy in FC.

Oh, and to the OP, yes, I think it's clear that those are like the Borg Queen's tendrills or something.
 
I think the first time that I saw the big cutaway diagram of the Enterprise-E, and Voyager for that matter, I could see what looked like a second warp core. I figured that it was a spare. There are some parts that are too critical not to have spares. I would think that a warp core (or parts) or a diflector dish would be too big and/or complex to just replicate on the spot. Also it should have taken some time for Geordi and his crew to clean all of the Borg stuff out of engineering.

Oh, and how logn would it take to recall and stow all of those escape pods?

I really liked the dish sequence. It was something that we hadn't seen before.
 
One more thing
We see one of those snakey conduits pull loose. They are optical fiber conduits. A modern day optical fiber cable that's 2 or 3 inches in diameter is going to be almost impossible to break. They're strong as hell. For example: They make rope out of fiberglass to moor ships with. And those are about 4 to 6 inches in diameter. Also, the cable wouldn't spark when pulled apart either.
 
Watch RLM's review on Youtube.

You will NEVER be able to watch FC the same way(if ever)again.
 
Just watched RLM's review.That was just too... damned... funny. Where's my pizza roll? Loved the escape pods going in reverse.
 
2:30 in... the guy speaks like he's got brain damage and makes "points" that are reaching at best.

Shite, in other words.
 
elton said:
2:30 in... the guy speaks like he's got brain damage and makes "points" that are reaching at best.

Shite, in other words.
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I see the point moved past you at warp speed. ;)

The guy speaks like that on purpose. It's part of the schtick, and the points he makes are reasonable ones. Some are points only a Trek fan would care about, while others are wide open plot holes that most people would note. You might say "who would care?". Well, if you're willing to watch a 4 to 7 part review that averages a total of 60 minutes, you do.
 
I think the conduits were an emergency Starfleet or Borg system to suck up all the spilling coolant everywhere.

What also bugs me is when Worf cut the Borg's arm off and used it to fix his suit. If he completely severed his arm, how come that single cord was still attached? Also, that must have been a pretty radical knot to have completely sealed his suit again.
 
I liked the point in RLM's review about the whole flesh-eating coolant thing. Data had plenty of opportunity to break the coolant tanks open during his scenes with the Borg Queen. With his super strength he could have grabbed a component or something off of a nearby Borg and throw it at the tank. But he does it when Picard is there and could be injured.
Here's a good idea:
While Picard and company are space walking they could have gone down to the warp core ejection hatch and blown the hatch open. They could then shoot the Borg as they are sucked out. All of those Borg standing around the core in Engineering, including the Queen, would be toast.
Does anyone suppose that the Borg's personal shields would protect them from entering the Earth's atmosphere. Since Enterprise was in a high orbit, I'd think that the reentry velocity would be tremendous.
 
Axiom said:
The guy speaks like that on purpose. It's part of the schtick, and the points he makes are reasonable ones. Some are points only a Trek fan would care about, while others are wide open plot holes that most people would note. You might say "who would care?". Well, if you're willing to watch a 4 to 7 part review that averages a total of 60 minutes, you do.
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The "dream within a dream" complaint was bull. It worked fine in the film. The whining about the introductory speech about how there may be "no stopping them"... the function was obvious, to quickly explain how dangerous the Borg are.

His points, at least in the opening minutes 'til I switched off, were a heap of shit.

LOL AT HIS BRAIN DAMAGED SPEECH THOUGH. Comedy genius.
 
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