"Bond 23" delayed indefinitely

[MeanJoePhaser]

What-the-fudge-ever.

"They" make SAW movies every year, but can I get a franchise I like that even gets movies every 2 years? Apparently not.

Perpetual wait for next Bond, next Trek, next Batman...

 

[JacksonArcher]

Mods - a merger perhaps? Since I'm giving Jackson the oxygen of publicity and strangling my own poor thread at birth.

Jeeez, get over it He started a topic before you, and yours fell to the bottom, boohoo. Move on

He was being facetious.

 

[Aragorn]

What-the-fudge-ever.

"They" make SAW movies every year, but can I get a franchise I like that even gets movies every 2 years? Apparently not.

Perpetual wait for next Bond, next Trek, next Batman...

Uhh... a Saw movie every year is not a good thing unless quality doesn't matter to you. Police Academy and Friday the 13th did the same thing as Saw.

 

[Admiral_Young]

Really disappointed by this news...hopefully the sale is finalized and they're able to get their financing problems settled because like the rest of you I was enjoying the Craig era Bond films. I really enjoyed Quantum of Solace even more so than Casino Royale and was looking forward to a Sam Mendes directed Peter Morgan written 23. I would have added Hugh Laurie as Q and it's too bad Gemma Arterton already guest starred in QOS because I would have made her Moneypenny! I agree with Jackson's earlier post where he stated that Quantum seemed to have a finality to it. It did tie up lose ends and Bond accomplished his goal of avenging Vesper and exposing Quantum. I was hoping the next would we would see him go after Quantum agents but now thinking about it a bit...it's really not that necessary. I just hope that whatever comes next...when it comes it's at least as good as the previous two and they give Craig a chance...I thought he had a three picture deal.

 

[JonathonWally]

While a Sam Mendes directed Bond movie would indeed be interesting, this makes me happy.

I hope the delay is long enough another revisualization comes along. One closer to the tone of the best Roger Moore movies.

Yeah, I fuckin' said it.

Nothing wrong with that. Except for Live and Let Die, Moore didn't make a bad Bond movie.

*cough*
A View To A Kill
*cough*

 

[Starkers]

I'd love to see Michael Fassbender play Bond.

I think that would rock, he was the best thing about Inglorious.

I think it’s a safe bet that, even if Craig doesn’t return, Bond will. I do think it’s a shame though because I was really hoping for Craig’s third film to be a bit more traditional. I know people like the gritty realistic nature of the new Bonds, but I do think they dialled the fantastical back a touch too far in Casino Royale (which is still a very good, if flawed Bond film). People go on about it being a return to Connery, but let’s be honest here, the only gritty and realistic Connery film was From Russia with Love

I think people were already tiring of the gritty Bond. It was funny that so many people who seemed to love those aspects in CR, hated them in QoS. I think unfortunately that part of QoS’s problem (aside from a script that probably needed more polish) was that it actually gave the audience more credit to work things out for themselves than CR did, and obviously that didn’t go down well. Personally I like QoS, it’s far better paced that CR (which goes on way too long and is somewhat unbalanced by the nature of the love story to the extent that they have to tag onto the end a gun battle finale that’s actually somewhat at odds with the rest of the film (where every battle is Bond vs. a single opponent). OHMSS did the Bond falls in love story way better IMO

QoS at least has a villain with a ridiculous plot, a much better Bond girl, more of the Bond music, and still has humour (like Dalton, Craig can’t do one liners but, again like Tim Dalton, has a wonderfully dry sense of humour that the script at least plays to (a luxury Dalton rarely got

I doubt we will ever see Bond become as camp as it did in the 70s, but sooner or later, with or without Daniel Craig, they will become more escapist again; personally I’d like the balance of the Brosnan era, just with somewhat better scripts.

 

[Kpnuts]

Mods - a merger perhaps? Since I'm giving Jackson the oxygen of publicity and strangling my own poor thread at birth.

Jeeez, get over it He started a topic before you, and yours fell to the bottom, boohoo. Move on

He was being facetious.

Not on his claim to merge topics, and his clear annoyance that he was beaten to get the first post out.

 

[Captaindemotion]

^ How's that irony-extraction operation going for you? Jackson and I get on very well and are in contact with each other off the BBS - the only poster in here I can say that of. And even if someone else had posted it, I'm not in the least annoyed that there's another thread on the topic - I really do have more to worry about. I just want to discuss the delay of Bond 23, wherever that happens.

I'm fascinated at how you purport to be able to read my mind on this subject. Was that a by-product of the irony-removal op or is that just one of your gifts?

 

[Shazam!]

I enjoyed Quantum of Solace quite a bit. The fact people forget is it's part 2 of a trilogy

QoS was a sequel to Casino Royale, but anything after that would be the further aventures of Bond as opposed to realising some grand plan for a trilogy.

This is what Daniel Craig said about the 3rd film carrying on the story:

We’ve finished this story as far as I’m concerned.

 

[Starkers]

^That's the way I understood it as well. Casiono Royale and Quantum of Solace are bookends to a story. That doesn't mean the third film won't feature Quantum, but the story won't be as entwined as these two.

CR began in snowly Eastern Europe and ended by the Italian lakes. QoS started by the Italian lakes and ended in snowy Eastern Europe. Bond in Casino Royale is a man who doesn't see the bigger picture (one less bomb maker and all that) but by the end of QoS has become a man who so sees the bigger picture that he chooses not to kill the one man above all others he probably wanted to, because he was more use to MI6 alive.

 

[cardinal biggles]

Jeeez, get over it He started a topic before you, and yours fell to the bottom, boohoo. Move on

He was being facetious.

Not on his claim to merge topics, and his clear annoyance that he was beaten to get the first post out.

Jeez, just drop it already. Even I was able to pick up that they were joking with each other.


Pertaining to the topic, this is a total bummer, but given that Bond is MGM's biggest property, I'm sure there once there's a new buyer and the money is in place, you'll see work on Bond 23 start up again the very next day. If not, maybe it's time for EON to find a new distributor. They had a good run with United Artists and MGM over the decades, but sometimes you have to move on for the good of the series.

I think the next film was already going to move in the direction a lot of people have been talking about here in the thread. I know in various interviews, Craig has talked about wanting to see Q and Moneypenny return to the series. So long as they keep the gadgets in check and continue with the dry humor that Craig seems to do well with (and not veer into camp á là Moore), I think they can loosen things up a bit without losing those harder elements that drew audiences to Craig's Bond.

 

[FreezeC77]

Is it a coincidence that Bond is now delayed when Kiefer Sutherland is now saying the 24 movie script has been written? I THINK NOT!

James Bond is scared of Jack Bauer.

 

[cardinal biggles]

Batman would kick both their asses, with or without time to prepare.

 

[FreezeC77]

If Jack Bauer had Bruce Wayne's resources and time he'd beat him Jack had to actually work for a living

 

[bigdaddy]

That sucks, this movie had some promise unlike the last two Bond movies.

 

[Captaindemotion]

Playing devil's advocate, I wonder if the Bond gig is working out for Craig as he'd hoped? He (deservedly) got great acclaim and kudos for CR but QOS didn't get a great response.

Then Bodysnatchers flopped while The Golden Compass was a disappointment (though both can probably be blamed on the Curse of Nicole Kidman). Defiance got okay reviews but was hardly a critical darling or box office smash. Now we have Bond on hiatus for God knows how long.

He's certainly being kept busy and remains an actor in whom the public seems to have an interest. But (again, playing Devil's advocate) he now faces the pressure of being a Name and a Face; previously, as a jobbing character actor, he could do such roles as he liked, make small movies and not worry about the response. Might he have been better off not accepting the Bond gig and keeping the freedom he had to do such movies, not worrying about having to 'open' movies and get the blame when they flop? Or has he been shrewd, taking this mega-gig, and allowing him to have the freedom and option to get smaller movies greenlit?

 

[FreezeC77]

Well to be honest if Daniel Craig was looking at the James Bond role spring-boarding him into being a major movie star in movies other than James Bond he was probably not looking at the franchise because really it only ever did that for one actor and that was Sean Connery.

Ignoring the joke of George Lazenby, both Roger Moore and Pierce Brosnan were actors who came into Bond following stints as a the lead on TV series (The Saint for Moore and Remington Steele for Brosnan) Brosnan has done much more post-Bond work than Moore, although he also made a lot less Bond movies than Moore did.

But none of the movies Brosnan has made post-Bond where he was the lead actor have been big box office draws. Then there was also Timothy Dalton who also never had any successful lead roles after playing Bond twice.

 

[Captaindemotion]

^Yup, that about sums it up. That's why I was surprised that someone like Craig, who was getting a lot of notice as an up and coming credible serious actor, mainly in indie movies, was interested in a franchise that tends to hinder as much as help its actors.

 

[barnaclelapse]

If Daniel Craig never plays Bond again that will be just fine with me.

 

[RandyS]

While a Sam Mendes directed Bond movie would indeed be interesting, this makes me happy.

I hope the delay is long enough another revisualization comes along. One closer to the tone of the best Roger Moore movies.

Yeah, I fuckin' said it.

Nothing wrong with that. Except for Live and Let Die, Moore didn't make a bad Bond movie.

*cough*
A View To A Kill
*cough*

No, that one was better than Live and Let Die.